NATO ja Iraan

[Lemet]

Ei ole teps mitte kõik, net annab teada, et 386 eelmisel aastal Iisraeli pihta välja lastud raketist oli ligi 80 "Grad" tüüpi masinate raketid.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0% ... 0%B7%D0%B0

[Kapten Trumm]

Eks need Gradi raketid on tegelikult araabia armeede ladudest "aurustunud" -st Süüria jm riikide eriteenistuste poolt ekstremistlikele kaltsupeadele salaja üle antud, võimalik, et "parim enne möödas", mida lastakse lendu mingitelt omavalmistatud laskeseadmetelt (suva solgitoru juppidest).

Grad oleks sealses keskkonnas vast liiga käegakatsutav märklaud, sest arvata võib, et kahtlasi piirkondi jälgitakse 24/7 radariga ja Gradi mürsupilve eetrisse ilmumisel lükatakse maybe kuskile ettenägelikult paigutatud 155 mm haubitsapatareile mürsud rauda või IAF meestel läheb kiireks jooksuks angaaride poole.

Jääb vaid mõelda, mis juhtub, kui Süüria hakkab tarnima BM-30 Smertsi rakette (õigemini VF hakkab tarnima Süüriale). Nende lennukaugus tähendab, et oluline osa põhiterritooriumist jääb tuletsooni (Grad ja do-it-yourself raketid ohustasid ainult piirialasid Liibanoni ja Gaza naabruses.
Smertsi laskekaugus 70-90 km.

[denis23]

Smerchi üks rakett ise maksab umbes sama palju kui 10 Grad laskesealdist koos veoautoga ning täis moonaga. Peast ma täpselt ei mäleta, aga VF relvajõud ostab seda sisse mingi müstilise hinnaga, mis on pigem taktikalise maa-maa tüüpi raketi omane. Seda tarnimine palestiinlastele ei tundu kuigi usutav.

[kibek2si]

Uudiseid üldse ei loe või?
Hamas st Gaza pirkond ei sekku Iisraeli ja Iraani omavahelisse sõtta, mõtlesid äkki Hizbollat, kelle toetajaskond on Süüria alawiidid( shiiad) ja Iraan shiiad?
Hamas on sunni, nii palju olen ise aru saanud. Aga paistab,et Iisrael tahab Gazat jälle rünnata.Omavahel need kaks usulahku eriti läbi ei käi.
Nagu protestandid ja katoliiklased keskajal.

[kana tagumik]

Reuters teatas, et nii USA kui Suurbritanna on valmis kasutama strateegilisi kütusevarusid, Postimehest käis läbi uudis, et Iisraeli julgeolekunõukogus on "kotkastel" väikene enamus...

[Lemet]

Väidetavalt on USA staabiõppustel võimalikud stenaariumid läbi mängitud...

http://3mv.ru/publ/ssha_quot_otrabotali ... -1-0-10464

[kana tagumik]

Mai leia praegu seda linki üles postimehest, aga hommikul vara jäi silma Ojulandi sõnavõtt, et europarlamendi koridorides on sõjaga Iraani vastu de facto vaikselt lepitud - et Euroopast mingeid ebamugavaid küsimusi esitama ei hakata kui juudid otsustavad käiku anda( ja USA-l ei ole muud valida kui toetada).

[Kapten Trumm]

USA CENTCOM ja Joint Staff on neid Iraani variante kindlasti veeretanud juba alates sahhi kukutamisest.
See ongi staapide peamine töö - töötada välja plaane (punaseid ümbrikke) kõikvõimalikeks ja -võimatuteks olukordadeks.
Ka KJPS seifides on kahtlemata plaanid olemas idanaabri rünnaku puhuks.
Kui mingis riigis selliseid plaane, mille aluseks oleva olukorra tekke tõenäosus on juba ütleme 10+% - poleks, siis tuleb esitada küsimusi, mille eest palka saadakse.

[paul]

Iraan teeb lärmi:

DUBAI – Iran’s military has started to build a copy of a U.S. surveillance drone captured last year after breaking the software encryption, Iranian media reported on Sunday.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/22 ... u-s-drone/

"There is almost no part hidden to us in this aircraft. We recovered part of the data that had been erased. There were many codes and characters. But we deciphered them by the grace of God," Hajizadeh said.

Hajizadeh claimed that the drone flew over Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan two weeks before the al-Qaeda leader was killed there in May 2011 by US Navy SEALs. He did not say how the Iranian experts knew this.

Before that, he said, "this drone was in California on October 16, 2010, for some technical work and was taken to Kandahar in Afghanistan on November 18, 2010. It conducted flights there but apparently faced problems and [US experts] were unable to fix it," he said.

Hajizadeh said the drone was taken to Los Angeles in December 2010 where sensors of the aircraft underwent testing at an aerospace factory.

"If we had not achieved access to software and hardware of this aircraft, we would be unable to get these details. Our experts are fully dominant over sections and programmes of this plane," he said

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 96493.html

[Kilo Tango]

Iraan teeb lärmi:

DUBAI – Iran’s military has started to build a copy of a U.S. surveillance drone captured last year after breaking the software encryption, Iranian media reported on Sunday.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/22 ... u-s-drone/

"There is almost no part hidden to us in this aircraft. We recovered part of the data that had been erased. There were many codes and characters. But we deciphered them by the grace of God," Hajizadeh said.

Hajizadeh claimed that the drone flew over Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan two weeks before the al-Qaeda leader was killed there in May 2011 by US Navy SEALs. He did not say how the Iranian experts knew this.

Before that, he said, "this drone was in California on October 16, 2010, for some technical work and was taken to Kandahar in Afghanistan on November 18, 2010. It conducted flights there but apparently faced problems and [US experts] were unable to fix it," he said.

Hajizadeh said the drone was taken to Los Angeles in December 2010 where sensors of the aircraft underwent testing at an aerospace factory.

"If we had not achieved access to software and hardware of this aircraft, we would be unable to get these details. Our experts are fully dominant over sections and programmes of this plane," he said

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 96493.html

Huvitav kui tõepärane on selline asjade käik, et sellel droonil lasti meelega üle piiri lennata, et püüda sokutada kohalike IT "geeniuste" masinatesse nii mõnigi sõbralik tarkvarajupp.

[kaur3]

Israel's Spy Revolt

The war of words over an Israeli attack on Iran is splitting the political leadership from military and intelligence chiefs. And that dangerous divide in Jerusalem might well lead to real war.

10.05.2012

Something has gone very wrong with Israel's posture on Iran's nuclear program. While Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak lead a confrontational approach -- including dramatic interviews and speeches to U.S. audiences that have convinced many that Israel might soon strike Iran's nuclear facilities -- the former heads of Israel's intelligence agencies have come out publicly against the government's position. First, Meir Dagan -- who headed the Mossad until late 2010 and coordinated Israel's Iran policy -- called an attack on Iran "the most foolish thing I've heard." In April, Yuval Diskin -- the previous head of the domestic intelligence service, the Shin Bet -- voiced a scathing and personal critique of Netanyahu and Barak. Diskin questioned not only the leaders' policy, but also their very judgment and capacity to lead, warning against their "messianic" approach to Iran's nuclear program.

...

The lesson from the intelligence chiefs' "revolt" in Israel, therefore, should not be complacency, but concern. Toward the end of 2012, the world will face either an Israel that is determined to use overt force to stop a nuclear-armed Iran, as Dagan and Diskin suggest, or a "rational madman" who believes he needs to repair the credibility that some of Israel's most prominent military and intelligence chiefs have undermined. Either way, it is vital that the international community maintain its focus on the Iranian nuclear program so that the Israeli bluff -- if there is one -- is not tested.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... t?page=0,1

[Tundmatu Sõdur nr. 5]

Iraan katsetas mitmeid rakette ja droone
http://www.postimees.ee/983924/iraan-ka ... ja-droone/

Nüüd on siis välja ka öeldud, et see sõda pidamata ei jää.

[Lemet]

Iraan tulistas 4. detsembri Pärsia lahe kohal USA päritolu UAVd

http://www.aif.ru/politics/news/263895

[kibek2si]

Kuiidas vene meediasse uudised NII hilja satuvad, sellest räägiti kohe peale USA presidendi valimisi. Iraan võttis sõna Novembris sel teemal. Ei ta. mis nad kaua vastamisega ootasid, ära lõigatud muust maailmast?

[kibek2si]

oi vabandust, veel üks drooni teema, alles sain Postimehe lahti