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Runkel kirjutas: Asi kisub veel tõsisemaks. Nüüd kõneleb ka Merkel euroarmeest. Asi käärib tugevalt.

Nüüd tuleks Stoltenbergil midagi konstruktiivset öelda, et deeskaleerida teemat.

"Kui Venemaa relvajõud või poliitiline juhtkond ütleb NATO, siis nad mõtlevad Ameerika Ühendriike.

Martin Peeter kirjutas: Kui poliitik mingeid sõnumeid genereerib, peab sel olema eesmärk. Mis on Macroni eesmärk? Kas NATO lõhkumine?

teeline35 kirjutas:https://www.err.ee/876736/merkel-euroop ... t-sojavage
Kirjutaksin Euroarmeele alla juhul kui see poleks järjekordne ettevõtmine lootuses, et keegi teine maksab ja paneb sõdurid välja.
Iseenesest Euroopal tänases geopoliitilises maailmas tõsiseks tegijaks saamiseks oleks vaja EL rohkem föderaliseeruda ja luua Euroopa ühendarmee, mida rahastatakse läbi Euroopa komisjoni. Probleemideks muidugi mis keeles selle armee asjaajamine käiks. Sakslased tahaksid saksa keeles, prantslased prantsuse keelt, Itaallased võib-olla itaalia keelt, poolakad leiavad, et kindlalt poola keel. Samuti sellise armee moodustamisel tuleks liikmesriikides raha kaitsekulude tõusuks kindlasti leida. Praeguse rahastuse juures saaks see ühendarmee olema tublisti väiksem liikmesriikide paegustest armeedest kokku, aga paremini relvastatud. Samas võimetu reageerima piisava jõuga suvalisel EL piiril ning tähtsusetu globaalselt.
Macroni ja Merkeli Euroopa Armee jutt kõlaks usutavalt juhul kui mõlemad teataks samas uudises ka vastavate riikide suurest kaitsekulutuste tõusust lähiaastatel. Hetkel on mõlema riigil see minu teada alla 2% .

Seega hetkel NATO-le tõsiseltvõetav alternatiiv puudub!!!

aht0 kirjutas:Las ma ennustan.
Ehitataks meeletult uhke ja suursugune peakorter Brüsseli - mille maksumuse eest võiks formeerida ja ülalpidada terveid meh. brigaade. Juhtideks saavad poliitiliselt sobivad kuid lahingukogemusteta kindralid, kes mikro-manageerivad alluvaid kuni rühmatasandini. Õppuste stsenaariumid ja tulemused on "I love me". Ja kui madinaks läheb, siis ROE on selline et lihtsam on endale toru suhu panna ja päästikule vajutada..

As a rifle company commander in 2015, I eagerly prepared my Marines for Exercise COBRA GOLD 2015 in Thailand. The training area was extremely austere: facilities were virtually absent, resources were limited, and conditions were rough. As a leader, COBRA GOLD was shaping up to be a dream come true. I relished the opportunity to condition the company to the deprivations and harsh conditions of the battlefield. Unfortunately, our battalion’s water purification system did not arrive on schedule. Our logistics officer immediately recognized the dilemma of trying to hydrate an infantry battalion without this critical piece of equipment. However, the desperation he felt was his burden alone. The concern of others, including many leaders was something entirely different: When is the WiFi being installed? When will our electronic command-and-control systems be operational? When can Marines call home? How are they going to Skype with their families? It dawned upon me then and still weighs on me today: we are divorced from the realities that await us. We were, quite literally, prioritizing WiFi over water.

ruger kirjutas:USA sõjavägi on probleemi otsas-sõjaväe(laste) tehnikasõltuvus. Kõike heaoluühiskonna asju peetakse enesestmõistetavaks ja kui pole siis nõutakse, et oleks olemas. Neid asju peetakse olulisemakski, kui muu varustuse ja toe tagamist, millest sõltub üksuse lahinguvõime. Eks see on probleem ka meil ja mujal maailmas.

As a rifle company commander in 2015, I eagerly prepared my Marines for Exercise COBRA GOLD 2015 in Thailand. The training area was extremely austere: facilities were virtually absent, resources were limited, and conditions were rough. As a leader, COBRA GOLD was shaping up to be a dream come true. I relished the opportunity to condition the company to the deprivations and harsh conditions of the battlefield. Unfortunately, our battalion’s water purification system did not arrive on schedule. Our logistics officer immediately recognized the dilemma of trying to hydrate an infantry battalion without this critical piece of equipment. However, the desperation he felt was his burden alone. The concern of others, including many leaders was something entirely different: When is the WiFi being installed? When will our electronic command-and-control systems be operational? When can Marines call home? How are they going to Skype with their families? It dawned upon me then and still weighs on me today: we are divorced from the realities that await us. We were, quite literally, prioritizing WiFi over water.

https://mwi.usma.edu/wifi-water-misplac ... n-way-war/

Our people, even the poorest, being accustomed to a plentiful mode of living, require, to preserve their health, a continuation, in a considerable degree, of .the same habits
of life in a camps and sudden and great departure from it subjects them, as it is proved by experience, to great mortality.

Our losses in the late and Revolutionary wars from this cause were probably much greater than from the sword. However well qualified for the
war in other respects, in the mere capacity of bearing privations, we are inferior to most nations. An American would starve on what a Tartar would live with comfort.

A long-range artillery unit was reactivated on Friday, just two days after the Army added a new air defense battalion to its inventory in southern Germany.

The 41st Field Artillery Brigade was reconstituted at U.S. Army Garrison Bavaria, 13 years after being deactivated. The original unit was located in Babenhausen, Germany, from 1972 to 2005.

“Our mission is to provide long range, precision fires to Europe,” brigade commander Col. Seth Knazovich said.

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014, the United States and NATO have boosted defenses in Eastern Europe with rotational units to counter potential Russian aggression. The Army has deployed an armored brigade to Europe on nine-month rotations since 2017.

In March, European Command chief Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti told Congress he needed a fires brigade added to the permanent force structure in Europe.

The Multiple Launch Rocket System unit will bring about 1,000 additional soldiers to the area. They are part of the larger push to hike U.S. troop strength in Germany by 1,500 soldiers by 2020 — adding to the more than 33,000 servicemembers already here.

This is the second unit activation in Bavaria this week. The 5th Battalion, 4th Air Defense Artillery Regiment activated on Wednesday in nearby U.S. Army Garrison Ansbach.

About eight years of regular rotations by Marines with the Black Sea Rotational Force, or BSRF, are coming to an end as the Corps instead expands its presence in the Arctic high north of Europe.

The likely last rotation of several hundred Marines with the BSRF to Romania pulled out of the country in September ― just as the Marine Corps prepared to kick off its first expanded presence in Norway.

The Corps has been sending a small detachment of Marines and sailors to the Black Sea region as part of the BSRF since 2010. Those forces have been focused on security cooperation exercises and training and advising partner nation forces from Ukraine to Georgia.

But the Corps now is focusing its attention on Europe’s northern flank, with a nearly doubled footprint of roughly 700 Marines engaging in extreme cold-weather training in Norway.