Läti ja Leedu kaitsejõud

[Drax]

- süsteemi moodsus/võimekus: Eesti 3p, Leedu 2p, Läti 1p

Pzh2000't peetakse vist üldiselt võimekamaks ja ägedamaks, K9 eelis tuleks ühel teisel real, kus räägitaks jätkusuutlikkusest, osade saadavusest ja remondibaasi lähedusest. Ämmade ja kuufaaside asemele pakuks veel üht rida - ühilduvust teoorias tulevaste tankidega hoolduse hõlpsuse osas. Selles mõttes on küll vist vaid leedukatel täkkesse läinud.

Soomusepilt on Baltimaades igatahes väga kirju.

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ühilduvust teoorias tulevaste tankidega hoolduse hõlpsuse osas. Selles mõttes on küll vist vaid leedukatel täkkesse läinud.

Minu teada on Leo 2-ga ühine ainult roomikud. Osa komponente on Leo 1 omad, kuid üldiselt on tegu täiesti teise masinaga.

Omamoodi huvitav on selline trend PzH 2000 puhul:

Some of the equipment being taken out of Dutch military service will be used for spare parts, Dutch Defense Minister Hans Hillen informed parliament on May 25, the day before the three-day Pentecost weekend in Europe.

The equipment includes 40 Fennek medium-range anti-tank systems, three Panzerhaubitze (PzH) 2000s and four F-16s. The spare parts of the 40 Fenneks and three PzH 2000s were found to be worth more than selling the two systems, and the F-16 spare parts are no longer available on the market.

Leedukatel on samuti kolm tükki määratud just selleks eesmärgiks, nagu ka Horvaatidel. Tõenäoliselt Saksamaa talitab samamoodi.

EDIT:
See lause ajab mind segadusse:

Austrijas piedāvātājai 155mm pašgājējartilērijas sistēmai M109A5Oe ir instalēta pusautomātiskā lādēšanas iekārta, inerciālā navigācijas sistēma, elektrosistēma, artilērijas uguns vadības sistēma.

Et Austria pakub liikureid JA paigaldatud süsteeme. Kas need masinad on siis algselt ilma nende süsteemideta või milleks selline lause?
Muidugi ma ei ole läti keelega 100% kodune ning võin valesti aru saada.

[HeiniR]

http://www.sargs.lv/Zinas/Dienesta_gait ... astcomment

Nonii, nagu võiski arvata, siis arv 47 tundub tähendavat ikka kogu komplekti, mitte ainult M109. Eks seda kui palju antud komplekt sisaldab muid sõidukeid ja vahendeid, teavad akf-id paremini.

[Fucs]

mil.lv leht on praegu maas, aga mingit venekeelset juttu on lisaks siin:
http://www.melkon.lv/news/2017/02/21/sa ... h-sil-lat/

[TTA]

M109A5O on kirjade järgi tegelikult üsna heale tasemele moderniseeritud, või vähemalt nii tundub. Paistab, et on lahti saadud M109 ühest põhiveast, lukustus süsteemist tulenevast madalast laskekiirusest

[Viiskümmend]

Kui Lätile jääb vahendeid, et hankida ka radarid, tulejuhtimissüsteem ning tava ja CCF moona siis on see hea tehing.

[Madis22]

Themess.net-ist käis läbi, et Austria oli plaaninud müüa tänavu 34 M109 haubitsat. Kas Läti saab neile veel lisa, või on ülejäänu 13 masina puhul tegemist toetavate vahenditega, küllap see millalgi selgub. Mina olen täna lätlaste peale pisut kade. Keegi võiks mind veenda, et me tegime parema tehingu.

[HeiniR]

http://www.lsm.lv/en/article/defense/so ... a.a226055/

5 Black Hawki jäävad Lätti.

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Keegi võiks mind veenda, et me tegime parema tehingu.

Me ei ole veel mingit tehingut teinudki.


Lätlaste liikuritel jääb peamiseks piiranguks see 39 kaliibriline raud. Ei suuda lasta sama kaugele ja ei suuda lasta sama intensiivselt kui 52 kaliibrilise toruga masinad.

[kallek]

ja ei suuda lasta sama intensiivselt kui 52 kaliibrilise toruga masinad.

Laskekiirus on lätlaste masinal siiski üllatavalt suur.

The Austrian M109A5Ö for example recieved an Intertechnik semi-automatic flick rammer and automatic primer feed. This apparently allows for a burst rate of fire of 3 rounds in 11 seconds and a sustained rate of fire of 6 rounds in 29 seconds.

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See on mingi palju tsiteeritud eraviisilise süsteemitesti tulemus. Kusagil isegi lugesin, et A5Ö laskekiirus on 12 lasku minutis. No ei ole.

Reaalne praktiline laskekiirus on siin:

Bewaffnung: 155mm M284 Haubitze L/39 mit Rechtsdrall; Reichweite: etwa 28 km (9. Ladung) oder 18,2 km (Sprenggranate, 8. Ladung); Feuergeschwindigkeit: max. 6 Schuss/min

http://www.doppeladler.com/oebh/artillerie/m109a5.htm
Ja see kehtib ka ainult esimese minuti/minutite piires. Sealt edasi on ilmselt sama nagu tavalisel M109-l, 1 lask minutis.
See on umbes nagu võrrelda base bleed moona laskekaugust M109 kahurist ja K9 laskekaugus tavamoonaga - esmapilgul justkui sama võimekad, kuid reaalselt ikka väga erinevad.


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Leidsin selle lätlaste väite, et suudab 12 lasku minutis.

Tāpat ar labi apmācītu haubices apkalpi ir iespējams izšaut līdz pat 12 šāviņus minūtes laikā.

http://www.sargs.lv/Zinas/Dienesta_gait ... astcomment

[ruger]

Endine Leedu õhuväe ohvitser sai Venemaa eest spioneerimise eest 5 aastat vangistust. Lisaks mõisteti Vene kodanik 10,5 aastaks vangi.

On Tuesday, the Siauliai District Court found a former Lithuanian Armed Forces officer and a Russian citizen guilty of espionage.

Russian citizen Sergey Moiseenko was sentenced to 10 years and six months in prison; he was also convicted of the unlawful disposal of a large quantity of ammunition and explosives, as well as combat grenades.

Former Lithuanian Air Force officer, Sergei Pusin was sentenced to five years in prison for espionage, as reported to BNS (Baltic News Service) by the court’s press attaché, Vytautas Joncas, the Lithuanian Courier newspaper reports.

The Court announced that for the period from 2012 to the end of 2014, Pusin had collected and provided Russian intelligence with information about the Lithuanian Armed Forces, the activities of the NATO Air Policing Mission, the location of military units conducting operations in Afghanistan, and remotely controlled reconnaissance drones, including their missions and possible locations.

Russian intelligence was also provided with copies of documents from the Lithuanian Ministry of Defence, including personnel files of officers in the Lithuanian Air Force. Part of the documents were classified and ranked as official secret documents.

The convicts will have to serve their sentences in penitentiaries. The court also ordered the confiscation of Moiseenko’s garage and car; Pusin’s computer was already seized during prior searches.

Lithuanian citizen, Ainas Kazlauskas, who was accused of the illegal possession of explosives, hand grenades, and ammunition, was placed on probation for two years and eight months. The execution of this punishment is postponed for two years. Kazlauskas was not indicted for espionage.

As reported in June 2016, the Security Service of Ukraine caught 35 Russian spies over the previous year.

http://uawire.org/news/an-ex-serviceman ... -lithuania

[Lemet]

Võõrriigi(ilmselgelt vaenuliku) kodanik relvajõudude ohvitserina...

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Võõrriigi(ilmselgelt vaenuliku) kodanik relvajõudude ohvitserina...

Ma saan aru, et ikka oma riigi kodanik oli see ohvitser. Vene kodanik oli ilmselt tema juhendaja/vahemees. Sellepärast ka oluliselt pikem karistus talle.

[ruger]

Leedukad loovad aastaks 2018 juurde 2 uut pataljoni ja kaitsekulude osakaal kasvab 2,07% SKP-st

#Lithuanian military in 2018: 2 new battalions to be founded, military spendings to reach 2.07% GDP

Vilnius, March 6. (BNS). Ministry of Defence next year intends to continue to increase the number of professional soldiers and put up two battalions in the west.

According to the Ministry registered the following year limit the number of troops plans, professional Lithuanian Armed Forces will be from 9.7 to 10.7 per thousand. Of these, 12 will be generals and admirals, 48 ​​colonels and sea captains, 207 lieutenants and colonels and Commander 673 Majors and Lieutenant Commanders.

Currently Lithuanian Army serves about 8.7 thousand. professional soldiers.

Soldiers professionals be increased in order to create two new emerging Battalion in the west and pursue other Lithuanian army units completed.

Battalion assembled expected next year, 500 soldiers and increase the number of conscripts. This year, the army will serve 3.5 thousand. military conscripts.

Two battalions of the Lithuanian Army appears completing the second infantry brigade Lithuania Žemaitija. She is currently assigned to Duke Kestutis Motorised Infantry Battalion and the Duke Butigeidis Dragoon Battalion.

In addition, under construction crew assembled artillery unit called Brigadier General Matthew Pečiulionio artillery battalion.

"Brigadier General Matthew Pečiulionio name artillery battalion has one of the most famous battles of Independence officer Brigadier General Matthew Pečiulionio honor. Brigadier General M.Pečiulionis - one of the Lithuanian Army Artillery creators and pioneers "- says the Ministry of Defence.

Brigade Žemaitija next year will complement and Duke Margirio infantry battalion.

"Duke Margirio name Infantry Battalion was awarded the legendary Samogitians Duke, Duke Pilėnų Castle defender Margirio honor. Prince Margiris participated in battles against the crusaders and the organized defense of the castle Pilėnų 1336 on February 25, when the castle's defense, not having hope to hold themselves to die in Lithuanian history recorded as a love the motherland, sacrifice and heroism example, "- writes the Ministry.

Government intends to next year's defense budget will be 2.07 percent. gross domestic product.

http://www.bns.lt/topic/1912/news/52151981/