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ruger kirjutas:Ehk siis Lukašenka räägitud jutt ei pruugigi vale olla.
Selles suhtes on ikka vale ju, et oli Ukraina luureoperatsioon värdide kättesaamiseks, mitte mingi oht Valgevene presidendivalimistele. Eriti rõve, et tüübid lihtsalt mõnusalt Venemaale putku said :evil:
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Wagneri võitlejatest veel. UKR pool (SBU ja GUR) tegi tööintervjuusid Valgevenes kinni peetud Wagneri liikmetega. Eks nende tunnistused nüüd tulevadki välja, kuna operatsioon kukkus läbi.
This is totally incredible. This "job interview" with an ex Wagner (unfakeable - definitely authentic) drags all details out of him; including how many times he shot down planes, and what Russian military awards he got that. This is an incredible coup by SBU
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 6654360576
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Wagneri võitleja avalikustas oma tegemistest raamatu. Pikem intervjuu esimesel lingil.
Interesting interview with Marat Gabidullin, a former Wagner contractor who fought in Syria and was wounded in Palmyra in 2016. Before joining Wagner, he graduated from RGVVDKU, served in the VDV, and was imprisoned in 1997 as a gang member.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/03 ... ed-for-war
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1334296043807252481
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Nendesse Marat Gabidullini memuaaridesse tuleb suhtuda ettevaatlikult, sest artikli lõpus on selge sõnaga öeldud, et autor ise palus mitte trükkida ja lasta ringlusesse oma teist raamatut, väidetavalt olevat sealt palju jama ehk valesid leitud. Samas ei saa eitada fakti, ei see inimene on Süürias sõdinud Wagneri ridades.
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Wagneri tegutsemine Aafrikas toob küsimusi-sõjakuritööd ja tsiviilisikute elurajoonides mineerimine
Chilling accounts of Wagner crimes in Central African Republic: arbitrary killings and abductions, rape, looting & booby trapping.

(In Libya, booby traps by Wagner & Haftar's forces in residential areas of southern Tripoli have killed dozens of civilians

https://twitter.com/W_Lacher/status/1389169264033243141
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Wagneri tegemistest ka eestikeelne artikkel
https://www.delfi.ee/artikkel/93363539/ ... istamistes
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Wagneri tegemistest ja sõjakuritegudest KAV-is kirjutab CNN
From a CNN report on Wagner war crimes in CAR. Notably, they are using Syrian mercenaries (possibly ISIS Hunters?), UAVs, and those Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters that have appeared recently.
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1405638174446080001
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/15/afri ... index.html
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SEPKA-Võimalik, et Wagneri võitlejad lendavad hetkel Kuuba saarele korda pidama
Wagner associated Nordwind Airlines and Azur Air are currently flying "tourists" to #Cuba. Probably not a good sign for the #CubaLibre demonstrations.

https://twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1414807381003878404
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Wagneri võitleja unustas oma tahvelarvuti Liibüasse, mis nüüd jõudis BBC kätte.
https://www.delfi.ee/artikkel/94274117/ ... hvelarvuti
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/8iaz6x ... -documents
The BBC in Russia asked one of the ex-fighters to describe Wagner. He replied: "It is a structure, aimed at promoting the interests of the state beyond our country's borders."

As for its fighters, he said they were either "professionals of war", people looking for a job, or romantics looking to serve their country.

The other ex-fighter told the BBC there were no clear rules of conduct. If a captured prisoner had no knowledge to pass on, or could not work as a "slave", then "the result is obvious".

Andrey Chuprygin, an expert working with the Russia International Council, said the stance of the Russian government was - "let them join this thing, and we'll see what the result is. If it works out well, we can use it to our advantage. If it turns out badly, then we had nothing to do with it".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-58009514
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Kas jälle avastatakse Läänes "uut" vana? :wall:

Juba 11.04.2012 - "... Then Putin named the system of private military companies in Russia a “tool for the implementation of national interests without the direct participation of the state“. Well, this is the exact definition of the activities of the Russian PMCs..."
Paljude raamatute lugemine teeb inimese palju lugenud isikuks, kuid ei pruugi teha teda targaks...
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mart2 kirjutas:Juba 11.04.2012 - "... Then Putin named the system of private military companies in Russia a “tool for the implementation of national interests without the direct participation of the state“. Well, this is the exact definition of the activities of the Russian PMCs..."

Viidet palun? Kõlab huvitavalt.
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Vabandan, et kohe algul ühtegi viidet ei pannud, katsun end parandada! :oops:

Tänud, akf Fucs, kiire reageerimise eest!
Paljude raamatute lugemine teeb inimese palju lugenud isikuks, kuid ei pruugi teha teda targaks...
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CNN-i artikkel eelmisel aastal Valgevenes kinni peetud Wagneri võitlejatest
Report from CNN on how Ukraine's security services were behind the arrest of Wagner private military contractors in Belarus last summer.

29.juuli 2020
Belarus' Belta reports that 32 Russian Wagner private military contractors were detained last night near Minsk. Belarusian law enforcement say they received information that >200 Wagner contractors arrived to destabilize Belarus during the election.

First, the Ukrainian agents posed as a Russian private military company, recruiting for security jobs that paid above the going rate, offering a lucrative $5,000 a month contract to protect Venezuelan oil facilities, CNN was told by the men, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak on the sensitive operation.
That bait was taken by hundreds of would-be Russian contractors who applied for work, the sources said, giving Ukrainian intelligence an unprecedented opportunity to begin to identify and reel in those suspected of war crimes.
"We started to call them and say, 'Hey, man, OK, tell me something about yourself. Maybe you are not really a fighter, maybe you are a plumber or something like that,'" one of the former military intelligence officers told CNN of the vetting calls to applicants.
"And then they started to reveal things about themselves, sending us documents, military IDs and proof of where they'd fought. And we are, like, 'bingo, we can use that,'" the source added.
In other words, according to the intelligence officers, the targets themselves started to send in evidence of who they were, their military experience and even the particular battles and incidents in which they had been involved, including IDs, and potentially incriminating photos and videos of their exploits in eastern Ukraine and elsewhere.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/07/euro ... index.html
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