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Military.com | Jan 19, 2017 | by Matthew Cox and Hope Hodge Seck

LAS VEGAS -- The U.S. Army on Thursday awarded Sig Sauer a contract worth $580 million to make the next service pistol based on the company's P320 handgun.
Sig Sauer beat out Glock Inc., FN America and Beretta USA, the maker of the current M9 9mm service pistol, in the competition for the Modular Handgun System, or MHS, program.

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With SIG’s recent win of the $580 million dollar contract for the US Army’s Modular Handgun System pistol, many are asking just how the American outlet of the Swiss-German SIG Sauer could have won such a large contract, especially against what many perceived was the strongest contender, Glock. Some saw the very text of the MHS solicitation as being biased towards SIG’s entry (which I do not think is true), while others assumed some backdoor deal must have occurred.

The answer may be far simpler than that. SIG, having learned its lesson from the XM9 trials where it was beaten by the inferior but cheaper Beretta 92FS, simply underbid the competition. And how! Unconfirmed reports coming from the “writer grapevine” – specifically contacts of Andrew Branca’s – claim that SIG bid just $207 per P320 pistol to win the MHS contract, an incredibly low price even for a bulk order of modern polymer-framed striker-fired handguns. Although the exact quantity of pistols being procured is not known (because the contract is for an indefinite quantity over an indefinite delivery, called “IDIQ”), it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of pistols will be procured. The $580 million dollar figure does not just include those guns, however, but also spares, accessories, and even holsters, all to be procured from SIG Sauer.
The low procurement cost per pistol puts concerns that the M9 was “good enough” and that no pistol should have been selected to replace it essentially to bed: It’s very difficult to imagine that the M9 could have been kept operational for the projected lifespan of the M17 handgun for less than a mere $207 per gun, especially since the M9 uses lifed aluminum frames which eventually need replacing. In the long run – and probably the short run, too – the SIG P320 is likely actually cheaper than keeping the M9 on, especially when one considers just how ludicrously easy the P320 is to maintain when compared to its predecessor!

HeiniR kirjutas: Sig 516 koos tehase paigaldatud korraliku punatäpiga maksis jahipoes 2000€. Ilmselgelt võib riigihankest paremat hinda oodata. Lisaks ei ole võimatu, et hanke võitja laseb need kokku panna (toota) Eestis.

Not (yet) adopted by a military or paramilitary organization.

The SIG 516, is designed by a company who has had a bad QC record.

It's a mediocre rifle with no track record designed by a marketing department.

Combine this with Sig's spotty QC record, its not a gun most would recommend.

Sig doesn't like to sell spare parts.

So far, only one company has made one that functions to the proper amount of reliability, and has established a militarily vouchable track record: HK. And we can't get a mil-spec 416 commercially.

Kapten Trumm kirjutas: (skaudid nõuavad ju).

Kui on suur vajadus uusi automaate osta (skaudid nõuavad ju), siis alla 1000-dollarise hinnasildiga ongi 2 võimalust - kas M16 või AK-47 kloonid.

Millele tuginete?

Rahva hulgas lihtsalt levib arvamus, et uute automaatide ost ongi tingitud sellest, et välismaal ei kõlba nende väsind Galilidega käia (nii öelda skaudid nõuavad paremaid).

Sig516 kohta leiab netist selliseid väiteid.

pagan kirjutas:Ma ikka mõtlen, et ukrainlaste Malyuk bullpup oleks seksikas kui hind post-sovieetlik oleks ja kvaliteet tasemel. Galili laadne hooldus kah.
Tundub, et relval on kehalähedane raskuskese mis võimaldab kauem palges hoida ja kiiremat reageerimist kitsastes oludes.
Huvitav mis ta maksab?

P.S. Videosid vaadates avastasin ühe miinuse kah. Ei saa vasakusse õlga võtta, muidu on kestaheite ava otse näkku.

Siin foorumis on laskespets Adrik korra selle ja välja öelnud - bulpup disain on jama, lahendus mitte-eksisteerivale probleemile.