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Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 16 Nov, 2013 10:13
Postitas Lemet
:lol: Paistab, et Eesti Vabariigi hemorroidid on tõepoolest nõukogude omadest paremad...valusamad igatahes. Panevad mehepoja laupa hommikul lausjama kirjutama. Või läks eile see kuldne mõttetera meelest, et tänaõhtune heaolu on puha avanss homse arvelt? :wink:

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 16 Nov, 2013 12:41
Postitas piirivalvur
Pigem oleks see kärpimine "kärpimine" Sveits on vaatamata 200 aastasele rahule ikka endiselt riik kus rahva teadvuses on sõjavägi see mis väldib tema võõraste rahvaste meelevalda langemist. Erinevalt naabritest( ja meist) kus sõjalised kulutused ongi pelgalt mingid abstraktsed kulutused.

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 18 Nov, 2013 9:01
Postitas Kapten Trumm
metssiga kirjutas:No suurel ja laial Nõukamaal oli ju täpselt seesama, reservid ja partisaaanid. Huvitav oleks nüüd, kui isand lemet hakkaks seda propageerima Eestile ja kapten Trumm veel kirjutaks, kui head olid tsiviilkaitsevarjendid.
Ma ei saa aru, mis on sinu probleem......
Kui eesmärgiks on seletada, kui hästi need teemad täna on, siis valmistu ka põhjendamiseks.....
Aga kui enamik su elust s*** oli, siis kaastunne :cry:
Niisama sedasi onaneerida on üsna mage.

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 15 Dets, 2013 13:41
Postitas Tarmo Männard
Kes või mis on “ministrikonserv"?

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 15 Dets, 2013 18:03
Postitas Zuslik
Tarmo Männard kirjutas:Kes või mis on “ministrikonserv"?
Ilmselt on selle all mõeldud laskemoona kasti või meil maakeeli "tsinki" . Aga miks teda "ministrikonserviks" nimetatakse võta sa kinni- võbolla seepärast , et peab sealmail ministrilgi kodus selline kastike olema ? Igaljuhul kes välja uurib saab hea küsimuse viktoriini teemase :write:

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 17 Dets, 2013 1:23
Postitas Tarmo Männard
Selge. Tänan!
Tõsi see on, et hoolimata kahest Nõukogude Armees veedetud aastast, on mul sõjakunstist üsna hägused teadmised

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 17 Dets, 2013 13:19
Postitas Tegelane5
Zuslik kirjutas:
Tarmo Männard kirjutas:Kes või mis on “ministrikonserv"?
Ilmselt on selle all mõeldud laskemoona kasti või meil maakeeli "tsinki" . Aga miks teda "ministrikonserviks" nimetatakse võta sa kinni- võbolla seepärast , et peab sealmail ministrilgi kodus selline kastike olema ? Igaljuhul kes välja uurib saab hea küsimuse viktoriini teemase :write:
Ma mõtlesin, et "ministrikonserv" on miski mida pikaajaliselt manustades, saab tavalisest Eesti mehest midagi Ligi või Langi taolist :lol:

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 20 Dets, 2013 4:52
Postitas Tarmo Männard
Nojah. Väljend "konserv" viis mu mõtted mingi poolmüütilise NATO söögipakikese peale, mida nad siis mägedes nosivad. Aga miks peaks keegi seda niikaua hoidma....ja miks peaks sõdurid oma moonakoti pärast riigile tagasi andma.... :D

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 18 Veebr, 2014 12:16
Postitas hulgus
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/v ... d=67970203

Vabandust et link kollasele ajakirjandusele juhib, aga ju seal ikka tõetera sees.
kirjutas:Kuigi piloodist kaaperdajaks muutunud mees teatas kiiresti, et tahab maanduda Šveitsis, kus ta hiljem ütles, et tahtis asüüli paluda, jäid Šveitsi hävitajad F-18 ja F-5 Tiger maapinnale, ütles õhujõudude pressiesindaja Laurent Savary AFP-le.

Savary sõnul tuleb see sellest, et Šveitsi õhujõud on kasutatavad ainult ametlikul tööajal ehk kell 8.00-12.00 ja 13.30-17.00.
Vihje potentsiaalsele vastasele: alustage reede õhtul...

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 18 Veebr, 2014 14:10
Postitas mx77
Piisaks vist ka lõunapausi ärakasutamisest. peale lõunat ei lendaks enam ükski lennuk :)

Re: Kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 15 Sept, 2024 10:18
Postitas ruger
Šveitsi lennuvägi harjutab koos Itaalia lennuväega(nädal vana uudis).
The Swiss and Italian air forces on Monday began their 12-day joint air exercises, named SIFEX, in Istrana, in the Italian province of Treviso, Report informs via Anadolu Agency.

The first-of-its-kind air drills will serve to evaluate and develop Swiss air capabilities with those of Italians, as well as to improve interoperability, said a statement issued by Delphine Schwab-Allemand, spokeswoman for the Swiss armed forces.

The exercises aim to strengthen the Swiss Armed Forces' defense capabilities through international cooperation, it said.

The SIFEX exercises will involve F/A-18 fighter jets from the Swiss Air Force and Eurofighter, as well as F-35s from the Italian Air Force or Aeronautica Militare.

The Swiss pilots will improve their knowledge and skills in transnational air defense, with a particular emphasis on young pilots. They will be trained in day and night air combat within and beyond visual range over the sea at low altitudes, the statement said.

Fifty Swiss personnel are in Italy to participate in the planning and execution of combined air warfare operations (COMAO) as well as tactical considerations, it said, adding that a new module would be applied during the air exercises.

The exercise is part of a 2004 agreement between the two countries to implement joint activities in the context of military education and training for their armed forces.

The statement said the Swiss Air Force is unable to complete all of its training in Switzerland in accordance with international standards.

It cited reasons such as small and scarce training areas, altitude and speed limits, restricted flight operating times, restrictions on the number of aircraft movements at airfields, dense civilian air traffic over Switzerland, high population density, and consideration for population noise pollution.
https://report.az/en/other-countries/sw ... ses-sifex/


Šveits on lõpetamas oma sajandeid kestnud neutraliteedipoliitikat???
Amid the growing animosities between Russia and Europe, Switzerland is rethinking its centuries-long neutral stance over global conflicts. In a bombshell report published on Thursday, a group of experts urged the government to rethink its defence stance. While the country has maintained neutrality since 1515, the group encouraged the government to work on a “common defence capability” with the EU and NATO.

“Since the Russian attack on Ukraine, neutrality has once again become the subject of political debate, both at home and abroad. Pressure on Switzerland to clarify its position is growing,” read the report put forward by the country’s study commission.

The group noted that Switzerland’s neutrality has also negatively impacted the arms sales of the country. It also puts the European nation in a complicated spot to defend itself while being surrounded by two parties to which it doesn’t belong.

The recommendations came months after Russia’s growing aggression in Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland to ditch their neutrality and join the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO). The experts involved in the report included diplomats, senior officials, a former head of the Swiss army and Wolfgang Ischinger, the former director of the Munich Security Conference. Here’s a look at some of its recommendations.

Allow arms exports

The group mentioned that Switzerland’s arms exports fell last year by 27 per cent to less than 700 million Swiss francs (€746 million) compared to 2022. One of the major reasons for the decline was the country’s strict arms export policies.

The country bans the sale of weapons to any countries involved in war. It also prohibits other countries from sending arms that have Swiss components in them, to a warring nation. “The re-export ban must be lifted,” urges the report.

Bern imposed the same restriction when the Russia-Ukraine war commenced. It took months of pressure for Switzerland to agree to ship surplus Leopard tanks to Germany to replace those sent to Ukraine. The experts noted that the country needs to gain access to the European Union and NATO armament programs to boost its own arms industry.

Strengthening ties with the EU and NATO

The committee insisted that Switzerland has to get out of its neutral position and build ties with the EU and NATO. Interestingly, the report came months after the Swiss federal council, which runs the country, signalled a willingness to cuddle up to both NATO and the EU on security and defence.

On Wednesday, a Swiss delegation travelled to Luxembourg to hold talks with NATO’s Support and Procurement Agency (NSPA). Meanwhile, the federal council also approved participation in two of the EU’s Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO) projects, last month. One on military mobility that aims to facilitate border crossings and another one on cyber defence.

Jean-Marc Rickli, the Geneva Centre for Security Policy’s head of global and emerging risks emphasised that Switzerland wants to prove it’s playing its part in case the neutral country needs military help from EU countries or NATO. “There’s a reputational element of Switzerland potentially seen as a free rider who doesn’t cooperate with European states,” he told Politico.

“If it wants to benefit from the help of its European partners, it has to give something back,” he furthered.

The proposal might not sit well with everyone

The report garnered negative attention even before it was released. Opposition parties in the countries accused Swiss Defense and Security Minister Viola Amherd of appointing mainly “NATO and EU enthusiasts” to the experts committee. Amherd has already been under fire for the country’s increasingly close ties with NATO.

In the report, the group insisted that the military expenditure of the country should at least reach 1 per cent of GDP by 2030. Currently, Bern’s defence sector gets a mere 0.76 per cent of GDP. The figure is far less than any NATO member except Iceland which does not have its own military.

The report stated that while the European nation has remained out of several conflicts, in recent years, it has become the target of hybrid warfare including disinformation, espionage and cyberattacks. Hence, the experts finally recommended that Switzerland should move towards “global defence,” meaning preparing the whole of society for a potential conflict

On Thursday, the findings were delivered to Amherd, who is also president of the Confederation for 2024. The recommendation lays out plans for the country’s defence strategy for 2025.
https://www.firstpost.com/world/switzer ... 10745.html

Re: Šveits, kõige militariseeritum riik...

Postitatud: 28 Aug, 2025 8:32
Postitas Porutšik
See pole küll otseselt militaarne probleem, kuid kaude ikkagi. Kui efektiivne on see militariseeritud riik tulema toime oma siserahutustega, mis tunduvad sagenema, kuna juurdetulevaid muu taustaga tegelinskeid on iga aastaga aina rohkem?
Teismelise migrandi hukkumine vallandas Šveitsi linnas rahutused.
Lausanne'is sai teismeline migrant politsei eest pagedes surma ning seejärel puhkesid Šveitsi linnas vägivaldsed rahutused.

Genfi järve kaldal prantsuskeelses Lausanne'is puhkesid kokkupõrked politsei ja protestijate vahel. Meeleavaldajad loopisid korrakaitsjate pihta Molotovi kokteile ja kive. Märulipolitsei kasutas aga protestijate vastu pisargaasi, vahendas The Telegraph.

Protestid said alguse pärast 17-aastase Lausanne'i elaniku Marvin M. surma. Ta põgenes pühapäeval varastatud rolleriga politsei eest, sõitis vastu seina ja hukkus. Lausanne'i prokurör algatas kriminaaluurimise surmajuhtumi asjaolude väljaselgitamiseks.
https://www.err.ee/1609780815/teismelis ... -rahutused