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Hiina tähistab kümne aasta möödumist J-20 esmalennust (11.01.2011).



Lennukeid oli juba 2019. a. lõpus relvastuses 50 ringis, hetkel täpselt ei tea aga ilmselt paarikümne jagu rohkem.

Tuletaks meelde et PAK-FA tegi esmalennu aasta varem (29.01.2020). Eelmise aasta lõpus oli toodetud 2 seeriamasinat (mille vargsus ei ole kindlasti päris samal tasemel juba väljaulatuvate komponentide tõttu nagu IRST).



võrdluseks üks veel ainult kruntvärvi all olev J-20 (kokpiti kate on ühes tükis, kinnituskohad õigete nurkade all kandilised, infrapunaseadmed on kõik õige-profiiliga nurgelised, siksakilised jooned üleminekukohtadel on laialt kasutusel)


Su-57 väidetavalt muidugi praeguseks "relvastusse võetud". Huvitav kas paar kuud olemas olnud kahe lennukiga on siis ilusti eskadrillid kokku pandud, meeskonnad välja õpetatud, taktika välja töötatud, ning ilusti kokku harjutatud lahinglendude käigus pomme/rakette laskma laadima koostöös teiste üksustega?

F-35 puhul läks ameeriklastel millegipärast vaja ikka eskadrillide jagu lahingkonfiguratsioonis operatiiv-testimise lennukeid ja kümneid tuhandeid lennutunde ennem kui oldi kandilised nurgad maha lihvitud, relvastus testitud ja taktika välja töötatud. Ja ka seda siis esmase lahingvõime jaoks limiteeritud relvadega. Täis-lahingvõimega läks ikka aastake, kaks veel otsa.

Venelased on ikka imeliste oskustega võrreldes saamatute pindosside ja hiinlastega

Flight Internationali selle aasta esimene nr pühendas artikli J-20 teemale. Kogu artiklit kahjuks postitada ei saa (vastavalt parandatud foorumi reeglitele), aga põhiline huvipakkuv - valmis lennukite arv, kasutatud mootorid ja usutav edasine areng siis allpool.

Estimated numbers
Andreas Rupprecht, an avid observer of Chinese military aviation and author of Modern Chinese Warplanes, says some estimates of J-20 strength put the overall number at
40-60 airframes, but says only 20 examples have been confirmed. Rupprecht believes prototypes should be designated J-20s, and low-rate initial production examples powered by Russian Saturn AL-31FN engines as J-20As. Aircraft using indigenous WS-10C Taihang engines would be J-20Bs, and those with advanced WS-15 Emei powerplants C-models.

Based on images of recent J-20s, Rupprecht believes that since mid-2019 all factory-fresh examples use WS-10C engines, with distinctive sawtooth exhaust feathers, and that a WS-15-powered aircraft is in testing. The latter standard will take until 2025 to reach operational service, he estimates.

While the use of WS-10Cs is a major breakthrough, in that it erodes Chinese dependence on Russian engines, estimates suggest that the WS-15 will have a maximum thrust rating of 40,500lb (180kN), potentially enabling ‘supercruise’ performance: the ability to sustain supersonic speed without maintaining the use of afterburners.

Flight International 2021/1 "A decade in the shadows" by Greg Waldron

Hiina on värvanud hulga lendureid UK-st, kes õpetavad Hiina õhuväge võitlema lääne lennukitega
China has recruited dozens of former British military pilots to teach the Chinese armed forces how to defeat western warplanes & helicopters, officials say - Sky News
Sky News reports that China has recruited 30 former fighter and helicopter pilots from Great Britain through a South African company.

After being paid USD 300 000 each, the pilots are now in China to train Chinese pilots in how to defeat Western military air forces in battle.
Western official to Sky News: China is actively trying to hire many more serving & former military pilots and other specialists from the RAF, the Royal Navy & the British army as well as personnel from other western nations
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1582146487210848256
The UK first became aware of a small number of cases of former military pilots being recruited in 2019 which were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The COVID-19 pandemic slowed attempts down, when travel to China was almost impossible but the attempts have now increased, leading to this alert.

"We've seen it ramp up significantly," a western official said in a briefing to journalists. "It is an ongoing issue." Current serving personnel are being targeted but none are thought to have accepted.

The pilots have experience on fast jets and helicopters and come from across the military and not just the Royal Air Force. They have flown Typhoons, Jaguars, Harriers and Tornados.

F-35 pilots are not thought to be involved although China is thought to be interested in them. Some of the pilots are in their late 50s and left the military some time ago. Pilots of other allied nations have also been targeted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582

Üks punapeast valgenahaline lendur peale Hiina lennuki allakukkumist koos Hiina piloodiga? Võimalik, et Lõuna-Aafrika(LAV-i) piloot.
This footage made rounds a while ago showing an unidentified seemingly European pilot as part of a PLA LIFT jet crash in China. As @RupprechtDeino
just noted, the newest reporting from UK now puts an interesting spin on his potential background.
https://twitter.com/AlexLuck9/status/15 ... 5260141569
When he speaks, it sounds more South African accent than British. And South Africa is more chummy with the PRC. Also South Africa is doing the headhunting for other British pilots to train their fighter pilots o_O hmm just a guess tho
https://twitter.com/searchinghell/statu ... 1486271488

Prantsuse lendur(id) Hiinas
Several French pilots have been working as instructor in #China to train #PLA air force, two former military sources confirmed me. I interviewed a French Navy pilot who was approached to train China aircraft carrier pilots @Le_Figaro
https://twitter.com/fallettiseb/status/ ... 5268211712

Ka britid õpetasid Hiina lendureid välja 2016 ja 2019. Lisaks ca 30 endist lendurit kohapeal Hiinas hetkel

The UK Ministry of Defence sent serving @RoyalAirForce pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, @SkyNews can reveal.
https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/statu ... 9335721987
No fast jet flight or other sensitive training was provided to the Chinese air force, says the MoD. However, a source says the 'Aviation English Course' was a misnomer and they believe "more than English language got talked about".

Britain's Ministry of Defence sent serving Royal Air Force pilots to China to teach a course to their Chinese counterparts and allowed Chinese nationals to study at UK military colleges, Sky News can reveal.

Up to four frontline pilots took part in the 'Aviation English Course' in Beijing that ran in 2016, while at least three Chinese nationals have gone through basic officer training at the RAF's college at Cranwell in Lincolnshire.

The most recent Chinese officer is thought to have attended the college in 2019 - a time when the UK and its closest ally, the United States, under then president Donald Trump, were increasingly concerned about security threats from China.

A former senior British officer also told Sky News that he had been aware in the past of a number of Chinese nationals who had studied at the Joint Services Command and Staff College at Shrivenham in Swindon - which caters for more senior military personnel from across the army, navy and air force.

"The joke was that they were always on the photocopier the whole time," the source said.

A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesperson said no "fast jet flight training, or any other sensitive training" was ever provided to the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).

Earlier this month, the UK government revealed that around 30 former British military pilots were currently in China teaching the Chinese air force how to defeat Western warplanes, saying this activity posed a "threat to UK and Western interests".
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-sent-raf- ... s-12732462

Hiina J20 stealth hävitajast pilte ja video
Some interesting closeups of the Chengdu #J20. The #PLAAF 5th generation #Stealth fighter.
https://twitter.com/GreyDynamics/status ... 2657217536
https://twitter.com/GreyDynamics/status ... 7874942976

Sakslasedki käisid hiinlasi välja õpetamas
Saksamaa väljaande Der Spiegel andmeil pakkus mitu riigi õhujõudude endist ohvitseri erafirmade vahendusel väljaõpet Hiina hävituslenduritele, teenides seejuures hiiglaslikke summasid. Saksa kaitseminister Boris Pistorius nõudis täna toimunud kohtumisel oma Hiina kollegi Li Shangfuga seesuguse koostöö lõpetamist.

Der Spiegeli ühine uurimine koos avalik-õigusliku ringhäälingu ZDFiga näitas, et käputäis varasemaid Luftwaffe ohvitsere aitas Hiinas õpetada välja hävituslennuki piloote.
https://maailm.postimees.ee/7788514/sak ... slendureid