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Мариуполь сейчас 22 марта 2022. Что случилось с городом. Мариуполь Сегодня. Обстановка в Мариуполе.
Lühike linnavaade Mariupolist täna, 22.03.2022:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgG932gHBU
Lühike linnavaade Mariupolist täna, 22.03.2022:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgG932gHBU
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Jälle Tšornobaivka. Relvajõud tabasid okupante kaheksandat korda
Hävitatud vaenlase varustuse arv on selgitamisel
https://www.nta.ua/znovu-chornobayivka- ... okupantah/
Reha ja tantsimine selle otsas ei kao kuhugile...
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[i]Miski siin ilmas ei saa viibida nii sügavas vaikuses kui surnud inimene.[/i]
Frederic Manning
Frederic Manning
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Javelin tegevuses:
Video on artikli all
https://shotam.info/kholodnoiarivtsi-zn ... lin-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZgJQR_ ... aryYouTube
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Video on artikli all
https://shotam.info/kholodnoiarivtsi-zn ... lin-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZgJQR_ ... aryYouTube
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[i]Miski siin ilmas ei saa viibida nii sügavas vaikuses kui surnud inimene.[/i]
Frederic Manning
Frederic Manning
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Räägivad, et Kiievi all on VF väed suurde kotti langenud. Bucha, Irpin ja Hostomel- varustusteed olevat läbi lõigatud...

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1506265327973376009
Siin arutatakse seda sõdurit, kes oma tankiga Ukraina poolele tuli ja saab sõja lõpus 10 000 dollarit preemiat. Et mida teha, et neid rohkem oleks: suurem preemia, rohelised koridorid, sabotööridele lisatasu (kes oma üksuse tehnikat lõhuvad) ja veel pakkuda võimalust Lõuna-Ameerika väikelinnadesse varju minna (seal aetavat Inglismaa ja Venemaa ka omavahel sassi, hea koht redutada).
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1506266942205792261
Izjumi tahetakse ka nüüd venelastelt tagasi võtta lähitundidel.
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506286533019586568
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1506265327973376009
Siin arutatakse seda sõdurit, kes oma tankiga Ukraina poolele tuli ja saab sõja lõpus 10 000 dollarit preemiat. Et mida teha, et neid rohkem oleks: suurem preemia, rohelised koridorid, sabotööridele lisatasu (kes oma üksuse tehnikat lõhuvad) ja veel pakkuda võimalust Lõuna-Ameerika väikelinnadesse varju minna (seal aetavat Inglismaa ja Venemaa ka omavahel sassi, hea koht redutada).
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1506266942205792261
Izjumi tahetakse ka nüüd venelastelt tagasi võtta lähitundidel.
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506286533019586568
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oleeg kirjutas:Ukrainlaste tegevus vastase tagalas:
https://t.me/LastBP/6780Ukraina partisanid põletasid vaenlase tagalas sõjatehnikat
https://charter97.org/ru/news/2022/3/22/460205/
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Eespool oli viide sellest CNN uudisest,et kohalikud ajavad metsa põgenenud venelasi jahipüssidega taga.Kui seda videot siin vaadata,siis konkreetselt üks kohalik käibki jahipüss õlal ringi.Kommenteeriv mees paneb ka head teksti a la kõik mis majapidamises vajalik kruvitakse maha ja siis pannakse põlema.
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Üldiselt tundub 10k usd juba piisav motivatsioon olevat + võimalus ellu jääda.
Tankis on ju 3 liiget , kas igaüks või kamba peale antakse preemiat?
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Huvitav kas me näeme "Suure Isamaasõja" stiilis ideoloogilise sõja ka ära. Ukrainlased hakkavad lendlehti(mis tagavad headel tingimustel vangilangemise) jagama ning VF teeb oma vägede seas korralisi läbiotsimisi. Lendlehe leidmise korral vastav karistus.
Tankis on ju 3 liiget , kas igaüks või kamba peale antakse preemiat?
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Huvitav kas me näeme "Suure Isamaasõja" stiilis ideoloogilise sõja ka ära. Ukrainlased hakkavad lendlehti(mis tagavad headel tingimustel vangilangemise) jagama ning VF teeb oma vägede seas korralisi läbiotsimisi. Lendlehe leidmise korral vastav karistus.
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Wots kirjutas:Üldiselt tundub 10k usd juba piisav motivatsioon olevat + võimalus ellu jääda.
Tankis on ju 3 liiget , kas igaüks või kamba peale antakse preemiat?
Taktikaliselt on parem preemia ühele määrata - siis lööb juht kõigepealt sihturi ja laaduri maha ja sõidab siis üksi preemiat kätte saama
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Lõpetaks selle tankide preemia jutu?
Info oli antud - mees ise võttis ühendust teise poolega, sest kaaslased olid jalga lasknud ning teda oli maha jäetud. Talle anti täpsed koordinaadid kuhu sõita. Kui kohale ilmus, siis jälgiti ning kontrolliti, et oleks ikka üksi. Andis ennast üles, sest tagasi minna ei tahtnud ja sõdida ka ei soovinud. Peale kontrolli viidi kinnipidamiskohta, kus anti telekaga ja duššiga soe tuba ning söök. Sõja lõpus lubati preemiat ning soovi korral kodakondsust. Mehele vaevade õnnelik lõpp soojas toas ja lobiga, ukrainlastel suurepärane info opi materjal - win-win!
Info oli antud - mees ise võttis ühendust teise poolega, sest kaaslased olid jalga lasknud ning teda oli maha jäetud. Talle anti täpsed koordinaadid kuhu sõita. Kui kohale ilmus, siis jälgiti ning kontrolliti, et oleks ikka üksi. Andis ennast üles, sest tagasi minna ei tahtnud ja sõdida ka ei soovinud. Peale kontrolli viidi kinnipidamiskohta, kus anti telekaga ja duššiga soe tuba ning söök. Sõja lõpus lubati preemiat ning soovi korral kodakondsust. Mehele vaevade õnnelik lõpp soojas toas ja lobiga, ukrainlastel suurepärane info opi materjal - win-win!
Paljude raamatute lugemine teeb inimese palju lugenud isikuks, kuid ei pruugi teha teda targaks...
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Venelaste Mariupoli operatsiooni eest vastutab see mees
Colonel General Mikhail #Mizintsev, who previously headed the #Russian military operation in #Syria, is personally in charge of the siege of #Mariupol. This was reported by Sergei #Bratchuk, the spokesman of the operative headquarters of the #Odesa administration.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1506206539060858887
Põhja laevastiku Petšenga brigaadi üksust asutakse taastama.
From the Ukr GS report of 1200 today:
"According to the available information, a joint unit of servicemen of several military units is being formed at the permanent deployment point of the 200th separate motorized infantry brigade of the Northern Fleet (Pechenga settlement).
Apparently Russia is trying to rebuild the destroyed 200th Separate motorized brigade at Petsamo.
Could be to plug the gaps in the north if they feed the 80th Brigade to the meat grinder"
https://twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1506271281716604932
Believe I saw a report a while ago talking about using some personell from the 536th Coastal Missile and Artillery Brigade, and possibly other NORFLT shore units, as replacements.
https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/statu ... 3968778250
Colonel General Mikhail #Mizintsev, who previously headed the #Russian military operation in #Syria, is personally in charge of the siege of #Mariupol. This was reported by Sergei #Bratchuk, the spokesman of the operative headquarters of the #Odesa administration.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1506206539060858887
Põhja laevastiku Petšenga brigaadi üksust asutakse taastama.
From the Ukr GS report of 1200 today:
"According to the available information, a joint unit of servicemen of several military units is being formed at the permanent deployment point of the 200th separate motorized infantry brigade of the Northern Fleet (Pechenga settlement).
Apparently Russia is trying to rebuild the destroyed 200th Separate motorized brigade at Petsamo.
Could be to plug the gaps in the north if they feed the 80th Brigade to the meat grinder"
https://twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1506271281716604932
Believe I saw a report a while ago talking about using some personell from the 536th Coastal Missile and Artillery Brigade, and possibly other NORFLT shore units, as replacements.
https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/statu ... 3968778250
Viimati muutis ruger, 22 Mär, 2022 18:11, muudetud 1 kord kokku.
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
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Õhusõjast Ukrainas:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/worl ... ussia.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/worl ... ussia.html
LVIV, Ukraine — Each night, Ukrainian pilots like Andriy loiter in an undisclosed aircraft hangar, waiting, waiting, until the tension is broken with a shouted, one-word command: “Air!”
Andriy hustles into his Su-27 supersonic jet and hastily taxis toward the runway, getting airborne as quickly as possible. He takes off so fast that he doesn’t yet know his mission for the night, though the big picture is always the same — to bring the fight to a Russian Air Force that is vastly superior in numbers but has so far failed to win control of the skies above Ukraine.
“I don’t do any checks,” said Andriy, a Ukrainian Air Force pilot who as a condition of granting an interview was not permitted to give his surname or rank. “I just take off.”
Nearly a month into the fighting, one of the biggest surprises of the war in Ukraine is Russia’s failure to defeat the Ukrainian Air Force. Military analysts had expected Russian forces to quickly destroy or paralyze Ukraine’s air defenses and military aircraft, yet neither have happened. Instead, Top Gun-style aerial dogfights, rare in modern warfare, are now raging above the country.
“Every time when I fly, it’s for a real fight,” said Andriy, who is 25 and has flown 10 missions in the war. “In every fight with Russian jets, there is no equality. They always have five times more” planes in the air.
The success of Ukrainian pilots has helped protect Ukrainian soldiers on the ground and prevented wider bombing in cities, since pilots have intercepted some Russian cruise missiles. Ukrainian officials also say the country’s military has shot down 97 fixed-wing Russian aircraft. That number could not be verified but the crumpled remnants of Russian fighter jets have crashed into rivers, fields and houses.
The Ukrainian Air Force is operating in near total secrecy. Its fighter jets can fly from air strips in western Ukraine, airports that have been bombed yet retain enough runway for takeoffs or landings — or even from highways, analysts say. They are vastly outnumbered: Russia is believed to fly some 200 sorties per day while Ukraine flies five to 10.
Ukrainian pilots do have one advantage. In most of the country, Russian planes fly over territory controlled by the Ukrainian military, which can move anti-aircraft missiles to harass — and shoot down — planes.
“Ukraine has been effective in the sky because we operate on our own land,” Yuriy Ihnat, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Air Force said. “The enemy flying into our airspace is flying into the zone of our air defense systems.” He described the strategy as luring Russian planes into air defense traps.
Dave Deptula, a senior scholar at the U.S. Air Force Academy and the principal attack planner for the Desert Storm air campaign in Iraq, said the impressive performance of the Ukrainian pilots had helped counter their disadvantages in numbers. He said Ukraine now has roughly 55 operational fighter jets, a number that is dwindling from shoot-downs and mechanical failures, as Ukrainian pilots are “stressing them to max performance.”
Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, has appealed repeatedly to Western governments to replenish the Ukrainian Air Force and has asked NATO to enforce a no-fly zone over the country, a step Western leaders have so far refused to take. Slovakia and Poland have considered sending MiG-29 fighter jets, which Ukrainian pilots could fly with minimal additional training, but as yet no transfers have been made.
“Russian troops have already fired nearly 1,000 missiles at Ukraine, countless bombs,” Mr. Zelensky said in a video address to Congress on March 16, appealing for more planes. “And you know that they exist, and you have them, but they are on earth, not in Ukraine — in the Ukrainian sky.”
Mr. Deptula said transferring these jets into Ukraine is critical. “Without resupply,” he said, “they will run out of airplanes before they run out of pilots.”
Pilotless drones are also a tool in the Ukrainian military’s arsenal, but not in the battle for control of the airspace. Ukraine flies a Turkish-made armed drone, the Bayraktar TB-2, a plodding, propeller aircraft that is lethally effective in destroying tanks or artillery pieces on the ground but cannot hit targets in the air. If Ukraine’s air defenses fail, Russian jets could easily pick them off.
As in other aspects of Ukraine’s war effort, volunteers play a role in the air battles. A volunteer network watches and listens for Russian jets, calling in coordinates and estimated speed and altitude. Other private Ukrainian pilots have removed up-to-date civilian navigation equipment from their planes and handed it over to the air force, in case it can be helpful.
Air-to-air combat has been rare in modern war, with only isolated examples in recent decades. U.S. pilots, for example, have not flown extensive aerial dogfights since the first Iraq War in 1991. Since then, U.S. fighter jets have engaged in only two instances of air-to-air combat, once in the Balkans and again in Syria, according to Mr. Deptula.
In the night sky, Andriy said he relies on instruments to discern the positions of enemy planes, which he says are always present. He has shot down Russian jets but was not permitted to say how many, or of which type. He said his targeting system can fire at planes a few dozen miles away.
“I mostly have tasks of hitting airborne targets, of intercepting enemy jets,” he said. “I wait for the missile to lock on my target. After that I press fire.”
When he shoots down a Russian jet, he said, “I am happy that this plane will no longer bomb my peaceful towns. And as we see in practice, that is exactly what Russian jets do.”
Most of the aerial combat in Ukraine has been nocturnal, as Russian aircraft attack in the dark when they are less vulnerable to air defenses. In the dogfights over Ukraine, Andriy said, the Russians have been flying an array of modern Sukhoi jets, such as the Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35.
“I had situations when I was approaching a Russian plane to a close enough distance to target and fire,” he said. “I could already detect it but was waiting for my missile to lock on while at the same time from the ground they tell me that a missile was fired at me already.”
He said he maneuvered his jet through a series of extreme banks, dives and climbs in order to exhaust the fuel supplies of the missiles coming after him. “The time I have to save myself depends on how far away the missile was fired at me and what kind of missile,” he said.
Still, he said in an interview on a clear, sunny day, “I can still feel a huge rush of adrenaline in my body because every flight is a fight.”
Andriy graduated from the Kharkiv Air Force School after deciding to become a pilot as a teenager. “Neither me nor my friends ever thought we would have to face a real war,” he said. “But that’s not how it turned out.”
Andriy has moved his wife to a safer part of Ukraine, but she has not left the country, he said. She spends her days weaving homemade camouflage nets for the Ukrainian army. He never tells family members when he is going on duty, he said, calling only after returning from a night flight.
“I only have to use my skills to win,” said Andriy. “My skills are better than the Russians. But on the other hand, many of my friends, and even those more experience than me, are already dead.”
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Ižjumi piirkonnas on venelane Siversky Donetsi jõele paigaldanud 2 pontoonsilda
Sentinel-2 imagery at approx 0830z this morning confirms 2 x Russian pontoon-bridges over the Siversky Donets river SW of Izium.
Western Bridge in pos:49.14871, 37.23472
Eastern Bridge in pos:49.15289, 37.25006

https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/statu ... 2624631825
Kramatorski lennuväli sai raketilöögi
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/15 ... 9977086989
Vene suurtükiväe positsioonid Irpini piirkonnas
https://twitter.com/Cen4infoRes/status/ ... 1874903047
Sentinel-2 imagery at approx 0830z this morning confirms 2 x Russian pontoon-bridges over the Siversky Donets river SW of Izium.
Western Bridge in pos:49.14871, 37.23472
Eastern Bridge in pos:49.15289, 37.25006
https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/statu ... 2624631825
Kramatorski lennuväli sai raketilöögi
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/15 ... 9977086989
Vene suurtükiväe positsioonid Irpini piirkonnas
https://twitter.com/Cen4infoRes/status/ ... 1874903047
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
EA, EU, EH
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
EA, EU, EH
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Mariupoli all Arestovitši andmetel alla lastud sajas VF lennuk
https://t.me/kyivoperativ/92191
https://www.facebook.com/alexey.arestov ... 2298476807
https://t.me/kyivoperativ/92191
https://www.facebook.com/alexey.arestov ... 2298476807
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Tulekahjud Kiievi ümbruses
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1 ... 9813122049
Tulekahjud Mariupolis
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1 ... 9852009474
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1 ... 9813122049
Tulekahjud Mariupolis
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1 ... 9852009474
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Jääb selgusetuks kas venelastel üldse on Ukrainas üks kindel sõjateatri juhataja või mitte:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/21/poli ... index.html
USA erukindralleitnant Mark Hertlingi kommentaar juhtimise kohta:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1506 ... 86564.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/21/poli ... index.html
USA erukindralleitnant Mark Hertlingi kommentaar juhtimise kohta:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1506 ... 86564.html
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Huvi korral.
UK kaitseministeeriumi ametlik uudiste kanal. Ukraina https://twitter.com/defencehq
Võimalik on registreerida, et saada värskeimat infot.
BBC. Ukraina sõda kaartidel: Venemaa sissetungi jälgimine https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
Värske info on mõned tunnid nihkes, aga mitte alati. Kaardid ja selgitav tekst on abiks aru saamisel.
Lisatud.
Kokkuvõte Lääne uudistest, mida täna jõudsin lugeda. - " Lähipäevad toovad tsiviilohvrite arvu olulise suurenemise ja linnade suurema hävimise/purustamise. "
UK kaitseministeeriumi ametlik uudiste kanal. Ukraina https://twitter.com/defencehq
Võimalik on registreerida, et saada värskeimat infot.
BBC. Ukraina sõda kaartidel: Venemaa sissetungi jälgimine https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
Värske info on mõned tunnid nihkes, aga mitte alati. Kaardid ja selgitav tekst on abiks aru saamisel.
Lisatud.
Kokkuvõte Lääne uudistest, mida täna jõudsin lugeda. - " Lähipäevad toovad tsiviilohvrite arvu olulise suurenemise ja linnade suurema hävimise/purustamise. "
Viimati muutis Turist 47, 22 Mär, 2022 19:02, muudetud 1 kord kokku.
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