vetewana kirjutas:toomas tyrk kirjutas:BTW USA Kanada ja UK ei oma ise Mi 17 koptereid, neid on nad ostnud omal ajal liitlastele nagu Iraak ja Afganistan jne ja seega tüübi pikaajalise kasutuse probleemidega ei tegele.
USA, Kanada ja UK omavad Mi-8/17 tüüpi koptereid, milliseid nad on ostnud oma erivägedele kes nendega Afganistaanis, Iraagis või kus iganes pärapõrgus ringi lendavad. Wikis on ka USA ja UK Mi-8/17 kasutajatena ära märgitud. USA-s lendab nendega ringi CIA. Kanada seni vaid liisib neid, tähistusega CH-178 (Mi-17-V5) ja pole välja ostnud. Suurbritannia ostis neid kasutatuna Bulgaariast vähemalt 5 tükki.
Hm, oled ikka oma väidetes kindel?
USA
On 11 June 2009, it was announced that the United States had handed over four Mi-17 cargo helicopters to the Pakistan Army to facilitate its counter-terrorism operation. (Note – A leaked US embassy cable published on Wikileaks describes the request made by Pakistan Chief of Army Staff General Kayani for additional helicopters[8]
On 16 September 2009, US Navy's Navair delivered the last two of four Mi-17s to the Afghan National Army Air Corps.[10] On 19 June 2010, it was announced that the US government would buy and refurbish 31 Mi-17 helicopters from Russia to supply the Afghan Army.
The US is reportedly considering adding the helicopter to the US military for Special Forces use in order to obscure troop movements. The US has used some Mi-8s and Mi-17s for training, and has purchased units for allies in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Allikas: wiki
Kanada
Back in 1991, Canada’s Mulroney government sold the country’s CH-47 Chinook medium-lift helicopter fleet to the Dutch. They cost a lot to maintain and operate, and Canada didn’t need them anyway. Or so they thought. Fast forward to 2002, then 2006. Canada has had boots on the ground in Afghanistan for several years now, but doesn’t have any helicopters capable of operating in the hot and/or high-altitude environment of southern Afghanistan. To support its 2,000 or so troops in Afghanistan, Canada had to rely on favors from US, British, Australian, Polish, and – irony of ironies – Dutch pilots flying CH-47 Chinooks.
Shortly after the RFP’s release, Canadian defense think-tank CASR began pointing out 2 potential solutions to this dilemma. One is the possible solution discussed during November 2005 coverage of Canada’s “emergency” purchases for Operation Archer: buy Mi-17 helicopters, the same type flown by East European NATO allies and by the Afghan Air Force. A Russian trade delegation made that precise offer during their March 2006 visit to Canada, and a Canadian company named Kelowna Flightcraft is already cooperating with the Mil factory in Kazan, producing Mi-17KF “Kittiwakes” with fully Westernized avionics and rear loading ramps.
Mi 17s wouldn’t be a substitute for the Chinook. Their load is 24 fully-equipped troops at best, with an external sling load of 3,000 kg, vs. the stated Canadian requirement of 30 troops and 5,443 kg. Hot and high altitude conditions will reduce those totals further. On the other hand, their cost is about 1/8 that of a new CH-47 Chinook, and deliveries would have been rapid. They would create a temporary solution, one which could be repurposed later to other military roles, given away to the Afghans, or even given civilian rescue or disaster-related roles as Chinooks become available.
Allikas:Defence Industry News
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/on- ... ers-02390/
UK
However, times have changed, and two Mi-17 helicopters are being used by British forces to train their Afghan colleagues as part of Project Curium.
Allikas:MoD
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Defen ... tshire.htm
