Mis Ukrainas toimub? vol.2

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Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) kasutaja Foreign Policy kaudu:
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As the U.S. slaps additional sanctions on Moscow and Donetsk separatists, new video evidence has emerged that short-range rockets are being launched from Russia into Ukraine.
If confirmed, the videos could be the smoking guns that directly connect the Russian military with the weapons being used against the Ukrainian military on the other side of the border.


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Russia Is Firing Missiles at Ukraine
As the U.S. slaps additional sanctions on Moscow and Donetsk separatists, new evidence emerges that short-range rockets are being launched from Russia into Ukraine.
BY Michael Weiss , James Miller
JULY 16, 2014


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Just as news broke today that the U.S. Treasury Department was instituting a new suite of sanctions against Russia, video evidence has emerged apparently showing the most definitive proof yet of Moscow's direct participation in the ongoing war in eastern and southern Ukraine: Russian rockets being fired toward Ukraine.
This afternoon, a video was posted to YouTube and shared on social media that claimed to show Grad rockets being fired from a Russian border town likely into Ukraine.  Our team at the Interpreter found  several other videos  with the same descriptions -- Grad rocket launches from Gukovo toward Ukrainian territory.
The BM-21 Grad is a Soviet-designed, multiple-launch rocket system mounted to a truck, capable of firing unguided rockets with a range of 12-27 miles, depending on the particular rocket used. Both the Ukrainian and Russian militaries use BM-21 Grads, though videos of Grads in the possession of the separatists show vehicles with a different camouflage pattern than what is used by the Ukrainian military. Despite claims by the U.S. State Department, there has so far not been any direct evidence that these weapons came from the Russian military.
If confirmed, the videos posted today could be the smoking guns that directly connect the Russian military with the weapons being used against the Ukrainian military on the other side of the border.
If confirmed, the videos posted today could be the smoking guns that directly connect the Russian military with the weapons being used against the Ukrainian military on the other side of the border.
Several of the videos, filmed near a pond of some sort, were apparently taken by a resident of the town. A careful perusal of Google Street View reveals that several physical features in the videos  match exactly a location in the northwest corner of the town, less than two miles from the Ukrainian border. The distinctive topography of the lake, the placement of bushes and rocks, the tree line in the background, and a series of evenly spaced light poles that appear in multiple videos and in the Google maps appear to place the rocket launch inside of Russian territory. A  preliminary analysis  of the angles in the videos shows that there is almost no way that a Grad rocket launch from this location could miss Ukrainian territory. Yet another video, taken due south of the rocket launch, proves conclusively that these rockets were launched inside Russia and not over the border.
On July 11, 19 Ukrainian servicemen were killed and 90 to 100 were wounded when a Grad rocket strike hit their armored convoy in the southeast corner of Ukraine. At the time, there were rumors that those rockets were launched from Russian territory. The convoy was destroyed while it was camped  roughly 10 miles southeast of Rovenky, a town that is only about 20 miles from  Gukovo. In other words, it is possible that Grad rockets launched from the site identified by the Interpreter  could have reached the site where the armored convoy was destroyed on July 11.
This startling new evidence emerges just as the Obama administration has made the decision to impose the most hard-hitting sanctions yet against Russia for its continued military interference in eastern Ukraine, an interference that U.S. officials have lately defined as the dispatching of heavy weaponry to separatists and the renewed buildup of approximately 12,000 Russian troops near the border. On Wednesday, July 16, the Treasury Department added to the list Russian arms manufacturers, separatist leaders, and the separatist administrative governments, known as the "People's Republic of Donetsk" and "Luhansk People's Republic." While the administration refrained from full sectoral sanctions, its biggest quarry was Russian state-owned entities: Gazprombank OAO, the financial arm of gas giant Gazprom; Vnesheconombank (VEB), an extremely powerful Russian bank; and Rosneft, the world's largest oil company. (Rosneft's chairman, Igor Sechin, was blacklisted in an earlier round of U.S. sanctions.)
That said, there are two limiting factors to these new U.S. sanctions.
The first is that, according to the Treasury Department's press release, the prohibition is on "U.S. persons and persons within the United States from transacting in, providing financing for, or otherwise dealing in new debt of longer than 90 days maturity or new equity for Gazprombank OAO and VEB, their property, or their interests in property." Russia's long-term financing for major transactions is typically secured externally, so the 90-day restriction on new debt could greatly impact Russia's already embattled economy.
But there's a significant distinction between the sanctions instituted against the banking and energy sectors. Treasury states that no U.S. persons can finance or hold equity in Gazprombank or VEB, but the issue of equity is absent from the designations of Rosneft. In other words, ownership of shares or other equity securities in the state oil company is not specifically prohibited. Nor have any U.S. property or interests in property owned by Gazprombank, VEB, or Rosneft been sanctioned, although Treasury says that that may follow, depending on Moscow's behavior.
Nevertheless, the future of Rosneft's ongoing deal with Exxon Mobil for Arctic oil exploration may now be in doubt. The banks especially stand to lose from today's measures. "If it doesn't cripple them, it bleeds them pretty hard," one U.S. official involved in the sanctions told the New Republic.
Another loophole is that U.S. dollar-clearing transactions are still permitted, meaning that foreign institutions or individuals doing business with either bank or Rosneft can continue to transact in their preferred currency of greenbacks. No doubt this is to let the legions of European companies engaged in long-term business deals with these entities proceed unhindered, although the "pariah effect" of U.S. sanctions may ultimately scuttle future transactions.
Indeed, the European Union's leadership announced today that it has agreed to impose expanded sanctions on Russia, with a list of individuals and entities to be decided upon on by the end of July.
It remains to be seen if Brussels's sanctions will follow Washington's lead. But it is clear that the West's diplomatic and economic confrontation with Russia has expanded at the same time that Moscow has let slip the veil on its war against Ukraine.
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Зорян Шкиряк
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http://censor.net.ua/news/294123/zakazc ... r_shkiryak

Завдяки чітким та злагодженим діям спецпідпрозділів МВС, карного розшуку та спецслужб СБУ, нам вдалося упередити замах на життя міністра МВС України. Оскільки, Кремль давно вважає і називає Арсена Авакова особистим воргом, гадаю, що не важко здогадатися звідки "ростуть ноги"...
http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/p ... le/1102413
Повна версія мого брифінгу в МВС. Тема: Українські правоохоронці попередили можливий замах на вбивство глави МВС. Деякі деталі планування російськими терористами замаху на життя Арсена Авакова. А також щодо ситуації у Слов,янську та про важливі кроки для прискорення звільнення Донецька і Луганська.
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Huvitav, kas sanktsioonid on laienenud ka .ru lõpulistele netisaitidele- igal juhul on täna hommikust peale katsetele neid avada teada antud, et "...Firefox ei suuda leida serverit asukohast ru.wikipedia.org..."
Errare humanum est-aga veel inimlikum on selle teise kraesse väänamine...
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Lemet kirjutas:Huvitav, kas sanktsioonid on laienenud ka .ru lõpulistele netisaitidele- igal juhul on täna hommikust peale katsetele neid avada teada antud, et "...Firefox ei suuda leida serverit asukohast ru.wikipedia.org..."
et.wikipedia.org jt samamoodi => wikipedia maas

http://tvrain.ru/
http://rbctv.rbc.ru/
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Mõned Peterburist pärit raisad Lugandodonis

http://uglich-jj.livejournal.com/75958.html

Säutsudest käis läbi, et Miltšjakov on juba lõpu leidnud
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http://www.postimees.ee/2859467/euroopa ... iendamises
Ühesõnaga mõttetu.

Putin: uued sanktsioonid viivad Venemaa-USA suhted ummikusse
http://www.postimees.ee/2859365/putin-u ... -ummikusse

Moskva: USA sanktsioonid on primitiivne kättemaks
http://www.postimees.ee/2859561/moskva- ... -kattemaks

Tühi mula, aga olulisem on et suur juht ise on prääksuma hakanud.

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-l ... h-donetsk/
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Feik?
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Киев: Российский военный самолет сбил украинский Су-25

В СНБО отмечают, что летчик катапультировался и был эвакуирован в безопасное место.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1405595624
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Würger 190G kirjutas:Feik?
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... =notify_me

Киев: Российский военный самолет сбил украинский Су-25

В СНБО отмечают, что летчик катапультировался и был эвакуирован в безопасное место.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1405595624
Nii vähemalt väitis eile Kiievis Andrei Lõssenko..
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Luganskist kuskil 10 km läänes lasti sõelapõhjaks mingil pisikesel lennuväljal (Веселая Тарасовка küla) paiknevad mõned tsiviillennukid ning õppereaktiivlennuk Jak. Arvestades foorumlase Lemeti parandavat märkust, siis reaktiivlennukiks on siiski Л-29 Дельфин

nakarte.lg.ua/blog/proisshestvija/pod-luganskom-obstreljali-ayerodrom-v-veseloi-tarasovke-foto.html

Nojah - vaevalt järgnev U. propa link, mille põhjal bojevikud lennuvälja ründasid - midagi annab, aga panen tollegi lingi:

http://nvua.net/ukraine/Pod-Luganskom-b ... -3896.html

Huvitav - kas see Jak oligi see kurikuulus bojevikkude õhujõudude esindaja?
Viimati muutis võhik, 17 Juul, 2014 15:06, muudetud 1 kord kokku.
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L-29 pole kuskilt otsast "õppereaktiivlennuk Jak"....
Errare humanum est-aga veel inimlikum on selle teise kraesse väänamine...
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Lemet kirjutas:L-29 pole kuskilt otsast "õppereaktiivlennuk Jak"....
Ju siis. Ei tea neist asjadest midagi. Langesin vist selle lõksu - et üks lennuk oli hästi silmapaistva värviga - sinised-kollased triibud ja selle küljele oli maalitud - Jak- 18T, mis tegelane ta siis on - ei tea.
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Jak-18T on neljakohaline kerglennuk. Kasutatav näiteks õhutaksona.
Paistab olevat tegu klubilennuväljaga (ALMAVÜ?). Midagi, nagu meil Kuusikul Nõukogude ajal. Meil küll reaktiive polnud, kuna riigipiir ligidal ja elanikkond ei näidanud partei suure asja vastu üles erilist andumust. N.Liidu sisepiirkondades aga küll, kuna liiga väikese Nõukogude riigi laiendamiseks oli ju lendureid vaja. :wink:
Eks Ukraina iseseisvudes jäid lennuklubid tegutsema.
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"Azov" pat pidi kotis olema, mingit infot selle kohta ?
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Eile oli siin ja seal uudis, et sepade tankid jõudsid Donetski alla.... peale 200 km rännakut.

Lihtsalt jäin mõtlema, et kui palju on sellel T-64 ressurssi, sõita mööda kõvakattega teed. Oskab keegi öelda / arvata, et kui tihti vajab selline aparaat hooldust, arvestades veel sellega, et tegu pole uue tehasest välja sõitnud masinaga vaid sellega on kindlasti juba varem mööda venemaa põlde / teid sõidetud.
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EricS1 kirjutas:"Azov" pat pidi kotis olema, mingit infot selle kohta ?
Mingi sellelaadne sepade nupuke oli selle kohta jah aga ei mainita üksuse nime. Väidetavalt ca 5 tuh meest kotis, neist võitlusvõimelised ca 2,5 - 3 tuh.

СМИ: Ополчение ЛНР окружило подразделения боевиков хунты в Луганской области
Окруженные в Луганской области ополченцами боевики хунты оказались практически "в котле", заявляют представители армии ЛНР. По их данным, общая численность окруженной группировки около 5 тыс. человек, из них боеспособны около 2-2,5 тыс. Ряд подразделений "уже полностью потеряли управляемость и просто разбегаются", а наибольшую боеспособность имеют те части, что пытаются пробиться через Мариновку, находящуюся под контролем армии ополченцев.
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