Põgeniketulv Euroopasse 2015-2017

[kana tagumik]

Ei tule sest Türgi leppest midagi välja, midagi natuke demonstratiivselt tehakse, et näidata. Talviste-tormiste ilmade tõttu vähenev põgenikevool kirjutatakse Türgi poolt enda arvele "täidame lepingut" , euroraha kaob korruptsiooni mutiauku ja kevadel vool jällegi kasvab.

Ilmselt läheb lahti türgi võltspasside ja võltsviisade äri, kui türklastele viisataotluste tingimusi kergendatakse.

[Martin Peeter]

Ei tule sest Türgi leppest midagi välja, midagi natuke demonstratiivselt tehakse, et näidata. Talviste-tormiste ilmade tõttu vähenev põgenikevool kirjutatakse Türgi poolt enda arvele "täidame lepingut" , euroraha kaob korruptsiooni mutiauku ja kevadel vool jällegi kasvab.

Ilmselt läheb lahti türgi võltspasside ja võltsviisade äri, kui türklastele viisataotluste tingimusi kergendatakse.

Eks seda kokkulepet tuleb ise tagada. Nüüd on EL asi piir pidama saada, sest Türgi peab tagasi võtma. Ehk siis kõik Kreeka randa jõudjad sujuvalt Türki tagasi viia, vajadusel jõudu kasutades. Seni ei olnud seda võimalik teha. Järgmised probleemid on Euroopa Inimõiguste Kohus ja Kreeka.

[ruger]

Makedoonia politseinikute ründamine (pagulaste poolt filmituna)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpa4BcUS24M

Dortmundi saabub 1400 pagulast-pidu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62GePced8LM

Soome uudised vahendavad: Saksamaal on 7900 radikaalset ISIS'e toetajat või võitlejat
http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/ulkomaat/saksa%208000-43804

Sama teema brittide kajastusena
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... chief.html

[Janka]

Pastor Mart Metsala Kuressaare Pereraadios.
Saade, mille laiemale üldsusele levimist kellegi poolt hirmsasti piiratakse, sest palju linke on maha võetud.
3:20 algab jutuajamine.
http://chirb.it/vC4710

Siit saab hiljem kuulamiseks alla laadida:
http://www.upload.ee/files/5369643/Rahu ... ..mp3.html

[Manurhin]

Saade, mille laiemale üldsusele levimist kellegi poolt hirmsasti piiratakse, sest palju linke on maha võetud.

Täiesti arusaadav, miks piiratakse. Teatud ringkondade jaoks pole midagi kardetavamat kui alasti tõde. Eriti kui see massimeedias välja öeldakse.
Aitäh linkide eest! Soovitan kõigil kuulata.

[Svejk]

Pastor Mart Metsala Kuressaare Pereraadios.
Saade, mille laiemale üldsusele levimist kellegi poolt hirmsasti piiratakse, sest palju linke on maha võetud.
3:20 algab jutuajamine.
http://chirb.it/vC4710

Pastor räägib nii õiget juttu, et mitte midagi lisada ei ole.

"Silmakirjalikkus ja topeltstandardid teevad meile enesele lõpu peale"

P.S.
Ja siinkohal ma isegi ei vihja sellele, et võõrliigist kolonisaatoreile tehakse soodukaid põlisrahva arvelt ,vaid mõtlen suuremat pilti

[Dr.Sci]

Pastor Mart Metsala Kuressaare Pereraadios.
Saade, mille laiemale üldsusele levimist kellegi poolt hirmsasti piiratakse, sest palju linke on maha võetud.
3:20 algab jutuajamine.
http://chirb.it/vC4710

Pastor räägib nii õiget juttu, et mitte midagi lisada ei ole.

Ausalt öeldes ei arva ma kristlusest kui usundist oluliselt enamat kui islamist... ateist olen ja selleks jään.
Aga too jutt tasus kuulamist ja läheb lingina mu skype profiili ja mujalegi.

[Kurjam]

Muudkui kärssavad

http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/v ... d=73086103

[Westland]

Kohati jääb põlengute puhul mulje,et migrandid panevad ise neile eraldatud majadele tule otsa,et ei peaks kusagil Niinisalos tiksuma või ei sobi elamistingimused.

[Kriku]

NYT: Rändurite vastuvõtt Berliinis on kaootiline. Ametiasutused on umbes, tuhanded inimesed ööbivad päevade kaupa nende ümber tänavail. Edasi, elamispindade ehitamisel ei näinud keegi ette praegust olukorda ja rendid tõusevad:

For two decades, Germany has sought to streamline its government, and nowhere has this been more visible than in Berlin. After the East and West sectors of the city were fused in 1990, its public work force was at 200,000. The city set out to halve that number, spinning off some services and downgrading others, so that by 2004, the number of employees had shrunk to 149,000.

Even as the population grew, the number of city employees continued to drop. A decade later, there were just 117,000 of them, and those who remained complained that their ranks were too thin to provide needed social services to Berliners.

At the same time, inexpensive rents, extensive public transportation and the image of Berlin as one of Europe’s hippest cities drew thousands of newcomers — 175,000 from 2011 to 2014. City planners had projected that Berlin would have another 175,000 arrivals over the next 15 years, but that estimate did not account for the thousands of migrants.

Over that same period, affordable housing grew scarce. The glut of apartments after reunification led the city to reduce subsidies for low-income housing. Because of growing demand for housing, rents have shot up 7.7 percent in the past two years. And although city-owned housing companies plan 30,000 new apartments for 2016, that number was formulated before so many newcomers landed at Berlin’s doorstep, many sent there by the federal government from points south.

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EP liberaalide liider Verhofstadt: Türgile raha loopimine ei lahenda põgenikekriisi. Alates juunist 2016 võtab Türgi tagasi EU-sse Türgi kaudu liikunud isikud, kes ei vaja humanitaarkaitset. On asjatu lootus, et see vähendab põgenikekriisi, sest selliste isikute arv on äärmiselt madal. Suur enamus (vast majority) tuleb Süüriast ja neid ei saadeta Türki tagasi. Samuti saab Türki saata ainult neid, kes ei ole veel Kreekast edasi liikunud. Kohtumisel ei tehtud Türgile mingeid märkusi inimõiguste kohta.

Kriku: see vast majority on nii kahtlane, et ülejäänud väiteid peaks ka kontrollima enne kui uskuda. Mis Kreekast Türki tagasi saatmise kohta puutub, siis on ju võimalik nad juba saartel kokku pakkida, neid üldse mandrile viimatagi. Seetõttu on raske mõista, kuidas nad muudesse riikidesse edasi rändavad enne tagasisaatmist.

Euroopa Inimõiguste Kohus: Türgi keeld Sinutorule oli sõnavabaduse rikkumine.

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Soomes põletati tulevane põgenikekeskus igaks juhuks maha. Soome uudis siis eeltoodud "Delfi" nupule lisaks.

[vadim]

Vägistamine ja tapmine pole takistuseks

Vägistamine ja tapmine Soome pinnal pole takistuseks varjupaiga saamisel.
Küll on aga välistab taotluse menetlemise sarnaste tegude sooritamine välismaal

The immigration official said that not even offences such as murder or rape are sufficient to block asylum, if they were committed in Finland. However if the crimes were committed abroad, they would automatically disqualify an applicant from receiving asylum in Finland.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/mondays_papers_st ... ht/8490957

Seega lgp pagulased ! Kui Teie sihtpunktiks on Soome, ärge Eestis jamage ! Teisel pool lahte võite Te selle eest teha seda mida mida süda ihkab.

[wk2]

http://www.disneylandparis.com//valitsemiskunst-kui ... uhiskonda/

http://www.disneylandparis.com//rahva-teenrid-arge- ... lesandeid/

[kana tagumik]

http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/v ... d=73093753

Sellele jutule saab lisada ainult juurde, et Eesti on enamuse välja saatnud ja pole ka näha, et ses osas midagi muutuks.

[pagan]

Pastor Mart Metsala Kuressaare Pereraadios.
Saade, mille laiemale üldsusele levimist kellegi poolt hirmsasti piiratakse, sest palju linke on maha võetud.
3:20 algab jutuajamine.
http://chirb.it/vC4710

Pastor räägib nii õiget juttu, et mitte midagi lisada ei ole.

Arvan kah suures plaanis samamoodi.
-Kerged erisused on "jumala" konstruktsioonis. Eelistaks paganlikku "taevataati" importversioonile Piibli nimelisest manuaalist.
-Mitmetes asjades ei oleks ma samuti nii kompromissitult kategooriline.
Aga toetan siiski suures plaanis pastori vaadet asjadele.

[ruger]

Samuti saab selle esinemisega nõus oldud. Kui täpne hinnang olevikule ja tulevikule. Usu teema muidugi ei ole enamusele enam arusaadav aga jah. Hinnang on õige. Sellised reeglid tuleb kehtestada ka meil-pagulasele peavad kehtima samad reeglid, mis on meil endal ja nad peavad ka saama samade summadega hakkama.

Aga pagulaste olukorrast Rootsis-tõlge poola lehelt inglisekeelde(google translate)

"The wave of refugees will change beyond recognition Sweden"
A huge wave of refugees, which at the moment is flooding Sweden will change this country beyond recognition. However, Sweden's too late started to openly speak about reality - says Joanna Teglund, which since 1981 lives in this country, and for 12 years worked in the Swedish Immigration. In an interview with Grzegorz Lindenbergiem portal euroislam.pl expert talks about the financial and social costs of the great influx of foreigners, which has recently come to Sweden 10 thousand. weekly.

Grzegorz Lindenberg, euroislam.pl: Swedish politicians recently say that immigration becomes a problem for Sweden.

Joanna Teglund: Immigration began to be a problem for Sweden ten years ago, when applicants for asylum began to be 20-30 thousand a year, and those who did not get asylum and so remained illegally. The government secretly tried to do something about it. Wikileaks revealed the that Swedish politicians in 2007 signed a secret agreement with Iraq on the returns of refugees in 2003-2007 fled to Sweden after the war in Iraq, but have not been allowed to stay.

Over the last five years, these problems began to grow exponentially and public dissatisfaction became apparent when in the parliamentary elections in 2010. The party Sweden Democrats, postulates restrictive immigration policy, the first time exceeded 4 percent. electoral threshold, yielding 5.7 percent. votes. In last year's elections, he received 12.9 percent. Vote in recent polls, is almost two times more. In 2011, war broke out in Syria and many Syrian immigrants arrived in Sweden, which is the only country in Europe in September 2013 decided that all Syrians will get a residence permit.

Besides the attractiveness of Sweden as a destination country for migrants contribute to the law on family reunification immigrants. According to this bill, essentially immigrant has the right to family reunification, provided that ensure its upkeep, but the statutory exceptions to make 99.3 percent. who had family members is maintained by the state. This resulted in a large influx of families with many children, particularly from Somalia. Sweden believes that it has the world's best social program and, indeed, is the most expensive program, and most do, but has the worst results.

Until now, the Swedish media concealed the problems associated with immigration. All those who have tried to describe reality, they were intimidated and silenced invectives kind of racist and Nazi. For decades, the only legitimate view, was the claim that immigration enriches Sweden. Each report in the public media, namely the liberal-leftist ended up such a statement. In fact, immigration has enriched Sweden until it was labor migration, while she was working for a relatively well-educated refugees from our culture. Still immigration of doctors or enriches developers Sweden, but the vast number of illiterates, półanalfabetów and people with low levels of education from Third World countries who would never get a job, it is a huge burden.

Only recently, since Sweden began to arrive 10 thousand. immigrants week and the government, police, customs, Migration Agency does not quite know how to deal with it, began to openly talk about reality. Sorry, too late. This huge wave of refugees, which at the moment is flooding Sweden will change this country beyond recognition. How - that no one is able to deal at this moment imagine. I have the impression that some people are only now beginning to understand some as small children, that lies have consequences. In the case of Sweden will be the consequences, the effects of which will be borne by several generations.

Is there a special reason to follow the Poles now?

In Sweden several weeks recorded daily over a thousand immigrants. Police said as many arrives, but did not record. No one knows who these people are and why they do not want to register. Apparently, some of them going through Sweden to Finland and Norway. If the flow of immigrants will remain at the current level, Sweden will flow in the next year more than 700 thousand. immigrants. Last week Sweden came more than 10 thousand. immigrants, of which 26.6 percent. said that with Syria. Nevertheless, the media continued from morning to evening repeat the mantra that arrive victims of the war in Syria and that it is not only Swedish European crisis, although these weekly 10 thousand. is more than was recorded in Denmark since the beginning of the year. And in relation to the number of inhabitants is more than coming to Turkey. It is not the European crisis, only the result of reckless immigration policy in Germany, and especially Sweden.

Sweden several weeks now there is nowhere to invest arriving migrants. They are full of youth hostels, hotels, guesthouses. They placed them in gymnasiums, tents, halls offices of the Migration Agency. IKEA does not keep pace with the sourcing of mattresses to sleep on. From Malmo leaving coaches full of immigrants and the driver said that was traveling slowly in an unknown direction, because in the meantime the Agency's staff frantically searching for Migration in Sweden last vacancies. Fascinating and frightening is with humility and devotion that state employees perform this act of liquidation of the Swedish state. They work day and night, seven days a week, without a word of complaint. Recently even the King of Sweden has decided to make available some of its properties, including palaces, for refugees.

Cope?

The government has so far claimed that Sweden can cope. It's not a question of finance, only to find practical solutions to, as she puts the finance minister Magdalena Andersson. Although only November 9 to Sweden came so-called Solo 741 minors arriving immigrants, or 25 classrooms and several more new schools come each day. And one minor costs the state one million crowns per year (1 crown - approx. 0,45 zł - ed.). Government response to the current situation is to order expert (Tillsätt utredning), the results of which should be ready by the end of ... 2017 years.

Observing the Polish debate about immigrants I see the same emotional arguments of politicians, the same lack of objectivity of journalists and the same division for the camp leftist who is good, who wants to open heart who wants to open the borders - "we have a place and we have to deal with this fear before a stranger "- and the conservative-liberal" camp unkind "who want to control, they want to count. This is a discussion of good from evil, and not adults talk about an issue that will affect the future of our country and Europe. And to this discussion you should prepare thoroughly, preferably tracking errors that committed in other countries. And Sweden is the best training material, because of errors committed most.

Are there any calculation of how much it cost Sweden?

The initial cost of immigration in the draft budget for 2016 are divided into two categories: "Immigration" and "Gender and settlement", and amounts to 40 billion crowns. This is a significant increase, as in 2010, costs amounted to 12 billion, and this year 34 billion crowns. To these must be added the cost of the difference between the cost of benefits received by refugees, as well as other social services, and income from taxes paid by them. This additional annual net cost per refugee or a family member is according to calculations economist Joakim Ruista 70 thousand. crowns annually.

What is the budget of your office? With him are funded these benefits?

These 40 billion is initialised only the cost of the reception of asylum seekers and it is funded, among others, benefits and costs of the Agency for Migration, which according to forecasts are for next year amount to 4.7 billion crowns. The draft budget for 2016 is based on a completely outdated forecast of 74 thousand. immigrants next year, and there may be five or ten times as much. According to the data of October 22 the cost of the initial adoption of the asylum seekers will rise next year by 29 billion compared to previously projected, to 69 billion. Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson announced that Sweden will be forced to introduce austerity program, but also take out a loan to finance the increase in spending on immigration. At the moment a lot of talk about the cost of the so-called "single arrivals" refugee minors, the maintenance costs the state about 1 million Swedish kroner per year. It is expected that this year they will arrive about 30 thousand.

Where did these minors?

Most of these so-called children are adults claim to be minors. Swedish doctors refuse to verify their age. Police warns that in many cases they are homeless people from non-European countries, for years residing illegally in other European countries, often with a criminal past. As "children" have a much better chance of obtaining a permanent residence permit, and if they fail, the risk of expulsion is minimal, as it is not known their identity, and often the country of origin.

What else in Sweden changed in recent years?

You see more and worse outcomes in schools. Sweden takes part in PISA and the results worsen the fastest of all countries surveyed: within several years has dropped from 10 to 30th place. It was only recently that scientists began to notice the relationship dramatically worsening performance with a huge influx of immigrants from third world countries. It would seem that there should not be these problems, because children quickly learn the language, but coming to class two or three people that did not know the language and are accustomed to a different education system, if at all go to school is a big burden for the teacher. The coming ten or a new student coming every week, completely destroys the class. In Sweden, there are programs introducing these students before they enter into a regular class, but at the moment municipalities have less and less money, and the lack of trained teachers. Recently already it does not control, because the influx of new students is too large. The most striking example is one of the schools in the municipality of Norberg, where due to lack of school places are considering giving lessons outside.

There are schools, where in general no Swedish. Children in the class speak Arabic. Already you meet adults who are born in Sweden and very little say in Swedish, with a very strong Arabic accent. These people will never enter the public for their Swedish society is closed. A good example of submission Swedes to visitors from non-European countries is a tragic story that recently took place in a school in Alvesta, in southern Sweden. Two 10-year-old student from one of the non-European countries molestowało sexually your girlfriends. Parents for a long time tried unsuccessfully to intervene with the director, who explained to them that this is normal behavior for boys at this age. After some time one of the boys raped her schoolyard her 10-year-old friend. The school tried to silence this fact. Parents learned about it from the alternative press. One mother told the director she keeps her daughter at home, while boys will be transferred to another school. Director reminded her of compulsory school. Only when one night 24 windows were broken at the school and the director began receiving threatening e-mails, the media became interested in the whole story and the boys moved. An interesting fact is that the Swedish Radio reporting on this event presented the director as a victim. The first question at the press conference was: "How's the director?".

Schools are much worse than they were. A health care?

About ten years ago they began to publicly speak about the slippery slope on which the Swedish health care, about queues and inequalities in access to treatment, where the elderly and low-income have less access to treatment compared to the needs. This discussion died down, although the situation is getting worse from year to year. In recent years, newspaper, writing about the health service, quotes mainly Swedish reports, which highlight good outcomes, where Sweden really excels.

The big problem is the poor health of immigrants. In the first half of this year it recorded 392 cases of TB, of whom 89 per cent. persons born outside Sweden. In the past ten years, the number of tuberculosis cases in Sweden increased by 50 per cent. Now under discussion in Poland about the state of health of refugees, Jaroslaw Kaczynski threatens cholera, but the reality is that these people will benefit from health care to a much greater extent than Poles or Swedes. The average Swede who works and is healthy, he has no idea about the poor state of health. At the time when his child is sick, at a time when contact with reality ends up in the emergency room and sees that it must wait for 12-16 hours, then it begins the tragedy. At the moment, all hospitals are guards who must keep order, because there are people attacking doctors, nurses attacker. In Uppsala trade unions demanded emergency equipment that has police during the riot.

Kaczynski also spoke about the 50 zones in the Swedish cities where Sharia law applies. It's true?

These are not areas where Sharia law applies only zones controlled by organized criminal gangs on the basis of an ethnic community. In some areas it is actually Sharia, mainly in Malmö, where there is a growing Muslim enclave. But they can also be gangs from the Balkan countries or others. In Sweden, discussed how these zones called, usually "no-go zones', but there is no discussion at these zones do it because it's too difficult subject. Recently, Swedish television has been given a report from Tensta in the north-west of Stockholm, such a zone, to which the Swedish state representatives are not allowed. The journalists were there stoned, even though they were under police bodyguards. Ambulance or fire brigade pretending to such a zone must have a police guard, because it is vulnerable to attacks, mainly pelting stones. In addition to these 55 zones it is also very much so. "exclusion zones", those in which few people have a job, hardly leaving school and little vote. In 1990, there were only three and in 2012 it was 186, 5000 statistical areas. They lived more than half a million people.

Apparently they ceased to collect statistics about the origin of the perpetrators of rape?

Sweden is in first place among EU countries when it comes to the number of reported rapes. Last year, 20,300 reported sexual offenses, of which 6294 rapes. In comparison to 1975, when Sweden officially became a multicultural society, the number of rapes has increased fifteen times. The detection of rape last year was 20 percent. (For comparison, in Poland 78.2 percent.). Currently there are no statistics as to the origin of the perpetrators, but the statistics from 2005 show that among the perpetrators were five times more people born outside Sweden than in Sweden. According to Danish statistics from 2010, foreigners accounted for more than half of those convicted of rape. Last assume voices concern about safety because of the large number of refugees, most of whom are young men. Particularly worrying is that many of them claiming to be minors and therefore may feel unpunished. Recently there was much talk in the media about a particularly brutal gang rape and battery where the offender gave himself for minors, and although the police had a different take on their age, were sentenced to six to nine months in an institution for minors. The prosecutor told the media today announced that it is satisfied with the judgment.

Immigrants are not expelled?

There are expelled, because there is no social consensus. Besides, who has not really expel them. In Sweden, there is, as in Poland Border Service, the only unit of the police, Border Police, whose mission is to expulsion of immigrants staying illegally, but their activity is symbolic. Excreted mainly people staying illegally who themselves report to the police because they have quite such a life. It also happens that the police find migrants residing at the roadside. All of these people expelled are usually at the expense of the taxpayer. The situation is so difficult that in the case of 90 percent. people coming to Sweden we do not know who they are. They do not show any documents. When you have expelled, it is often not clear from which country they are. Someone, say, speaks Russian and does not specify their country of origin, because he knows that he has little chance of asylum. But it is not known which country the person deported. A lot of people speak Arabic and as someone says he is from Syria, he gets a residence permit, which is still the case in Sweden is synonymous with providing care for life.

How they are admitted immigrants, whether they live in camps, whether the state pays them, whether they get benefits?

During the asylum procedure have the opportunity to live in camps, for which the state pays, or have the opportunity to live with a family for which the state does not pay them. In both cases they get the same allowance, which at the moment amounts to 61-71 crowns per day, which is less than in Poland. It seems that these huge numbers of immigrants who now arrive, are not going to live for families, only expect that the state will provide them with accommodation. After receiving asylum immigrants for two years they are covered by the special program during which they learn the language and have contact with the employment agency to help them find the right job. If they fail to find work, they receive assistance from the state on the same conditions as the Swedes, or receive social assistance. They pay them for housing, electricity and get a certain amount of support. They also have the opportunity to apply for additional grants, depending on the municipality. If you arrive lonely woman with three children it will get about 22 thousand. crowns. If he went to work as a teacher, police officer or nurse is after tax would get less in the hand and then state that it was contributed. For the Swedes, who have a very strong work ethic, it is clear that in such a situation go to work. The woman, who comes from a different culture, where women do the housework and children, does not see in this sense. But beyond that, there is no incentive to go to work - work is not.

You said that immigrants had to be a way of demographic decline, a way to pay pensions in the future. And what?

Social Democratic Party for many years explained the Swedes that we must accept refugees because of demographic decline, to work for us. This assertion is an expression of incompetence or dishonesty. Because it's not the number of refugees will be salvation for the aging of the country, but the degree of their employment, wages and the level of current consumption. Economist Jan Ekberg in 2009 calculated that the activity rate of immigrants must exceed 72 percent to immigration began to pay off. So far, no group of refugees failed to achieve this rate, which today is 58 percent and long already at this level is maintained. There are no signs that the gap in terms of income and tax revenues between foreigners and Swedes, would be reduced. It looks more like he increases.

In general, the work is not there?

Recently it published a report which concluded that the Swedish labor market is a huge gap between the lack of qualified staff and a large number of low-skilled unemployed. Many companies unsuccessfully looking for skilled workers. The education system is not able to provide a sufficient number of skilled workers, immigrants coming to Sweden are poorly educated. Sweden is trying to remedy conducting an active policy on the labor market, but it gives a negligible effect. The two-year integration program is considered to be a failure, because only 6 percent. immigrants have jobs two and a half years after the completion of this program, despite the fact that employers who employ immigrants from non-European countries are able to obtain financing employment of 80 percent. salary. Placement Office for the past five years paid out to private companies more than 73 billion crowns for partial refunding of wage costs, immigrants and the unemployed with the greatest difficulties in finding a job. A number of 94 percent. not having a job is the same as two years ago.

And what's your plan of action if the situation in Sweden will change for the worse?

I realize that the situation could deteriorate very rapidly. People aware that make food supplies. These are mainly foreigners, because most Swedes shocked and reacts negation. I'm trying to prepare for this mainly mentally, although I have small stocks of food in the event of unrest. I hope that in such a situation I could and my children to leave Sweden in time and take refuge in Poland.

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