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Kaliningradist huvitav lugu http://www.diplomaatia.ee/artikkel/kali ... vause-idu/
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Stoltenberg: NATO ei soovi Venemaaga uut külma sõda
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http://uudised.err.ee/v/valismaa/d9c5d7 ... kulma-soda
Kuigi Vene peaminister Dmitri Medvedev ütles, et pinged ida ja lääne vahel on taas lõkkele löönud ning pidevad süüdistused on viinud maailma "uude külma sõtta", kinnitas NATO peasekretär Jens Stoltenberg, et allianss ei soovi lasta olukorral eskaleeruda, vaid pigem tahetakse arendada osapoolte vahelist dialoogi.
Pinged Venemaa ja lääne vahel on viinud maailma "uude külma sõtta," ütles Vene peaminister Dmitri Medvedev laupäeval Müncheni julgeolekukonverentsil.
"Meid süüdistatakse peaaegu iga päev uutes kohutavates ähvardustes NATO, Euroopa, USA või teiste riikide vastu," leidis Medvedev.
Samas kinnitas NATO peasekretär Jens Stoltenberg, et Euroopa raketitõrje ei ole suunatud Venemaa, vaid teiste välisohtude vastu. Peasekretär lisas, et Venemaaga tuleb tugevdada dialoogi läbipaistvuse suurendamiseks ja probleemide ärahoidmiseks.
"Tahame saata jõulise signaali, et soovime sõda ära hoida," ütles Stoltenberg, rõhutades, et allianss ei soovi uut külma sõda.
"Kui probleemid tekivad, on oluline vältida nende eskaleerumist," sõnas Stoltenberg.
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IISS graafik, mis demonstreerib lahinguvõimeliste maaväe üksuste vähenemist Lääne-Euroopas 1990-2015.
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Niipalju siis NATOst. Oligi liiga ilus.
http://bianet.org/english/politics/1722 ... ly-on-nato
Venemaa rikub Türgi piiri (korduvalt), Türgi laseb Vene lennuki alla. NATO ütleb, et ise alustasite ja artikkel 5. ei kehti.
Narva ilmuvad rohemehikesed, kohalik kaitseliitlane laseb esimese rohemehikese maha. Nato ütleb, et artikkel 5. ei kehti, kuna ise alustasite.
http://bianet.org/english/politics/1722 ... ly-on-nato
Venemaa rikub Türgi piiri (korduvalt), Türgi laseb Vene lennuki alla. NATO ütleb, et ise alustasite ja artikkel 5. ei kehti.
Narva ilmuvad rohemehikesed, kohalik kaitseliitlane laseb esimese rohemehikese maha. Nato ütleb, et artikkel 5. ei kehti, kuna ise alustasite.
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Tulevikus saab sõda enne algust läbi Nitro Zeusi ja Olümpiamängude abil.
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/glo ... y-war.htmlZero Day Warfare
The goal of zero day warfare is to win the war before it starts (a very zen concept) by deeply penetrating the opponent's territory years before the conflict begins. Like all maneuver warfare, it is focused on shattering the opponent's physical and logical cohesiveness. Here's a quick summary of the highlights:
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Чехия направит солдат к восточным границам НАТО
Вчора 21 лютого о 20:57•Deutsche Welle
Czechs to send 100 troops to NATO’s eastern flank – defence minister
REUTERS, 21/02 17:11 CET
Вчора 21 лютого о 20:57•Deutsche Welle
http://m.dw.com/ru/чехия-направит-солда ... l-4190-xml
ГОЛОВНЕ
Чехия направит солдат к восточным границам НАТО
Вчора 21 лютого о 20:57•Deutsche Welle
Чехия намерена отправить 100 солдат на восточный фланг НАТО, чтобы поддержать укрепление границ альянса с Россией со стороны Польши и стран Балтии. Об этом сообщил в воскресенье, 21 февраля, чешский министр обороны Мартин Стропницкий, передает агентство Reuters. "Речь идет примерно о роте солдат, примерно сотне людей, которые присоединились бы к контингенту альянса", - заявил Стропницкий в эфире чешского телевидения, добавив, что бригада НАТО будет усилена чешскими войсками во втором полугодии 2016 года.
10 февраля главы Минобороны стран-членов Североатлантического альянса согласовали план наращивания сил на востоке Европы в связи с агрессивной внешней политикой России. Целью усиления военного присутствия является сдерживание "гибридных угроз", заявил генеральный секретарь альянса Йенс Столтенберг. НАТО планирует направить в государства Восточной Европы дополнительные войска после встречи союзников в Варшаве летом 2016 года.
НАТО рассчитывает направить солдат в Латвию, Литву и Эстонию, а также в Польшу, Болгарию и Румынию. В этих странах уже развернуты малые штабы альянса. По предварительным данным, в каждое из государств будет направлено дополнительно по 1000 военнослужащих.
Czechs to send 100 troops to NATO’s eastern flank – defence minister
REUTERS, 21/02 17:11 CET
http://www.euronews.com/newswires/31555 ... -minister/PRAGUE (Reuters) – The Czech Republic is ready to send around 100 soldiers to the eastern flank of NATO to help reinforce the Baltics and Poland and deter Russia, Defence Minister Martin Stropnicky said on Sunday.
The move is in line with a NATO plan, announced on Feb. 10, to deter Russia from aggression by rapidly deploying air, naval and ground forces without resorting to Cold War-era military bases.
“There is a talk of a platoon, roughly 100 people, who would take part in the alliance’s contingent,” Stropnicky said on Czech Television.
“If the preparation of the (NATO) brigade goes according to plan, and I believe it will, then it is very likely in the second half (of this year),” he said.
In an effort to deter Moscow after its 2014 annexation of Crimea, NATO defence ministers will rely on a network of new alliance outposts, forces on rotation, warehoused equipment and regular war games, all backed by a rapid-reaction force.
(Reporting by Robert Muller; Editing by Richard Balmforth)
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Ameerikas vaatasid mehed oma oskuseid üle.
Gary Phillips, senior intelligence advisor for the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command’s G-2, Intelligence Support Activity, spoke about the outcome of Unified Quest 2016, or UQ, during a Feb. 19 media roundtable. He was joined by Brig. Gen. Lee Quintas, director, Concept Development and Learning Directorate, Army Capabilities Integration Center.
Quintas said a lot of the analysis involved looking at how the Army is structured. Specifically, he said how the Army is structured at the division, corps and theater levels, and how effectively those higher echelons support the brigades in joint and expeditionary maneuvers.
Brigades were examined too, he said.
“We looked at our airborne brigades and realized as we did the analysis that they lacked tactical mobility, they lacked reconnaissance capability and lacked mobile protective firepower,” Quintas said. “So, you look at that as a gap and come up with an integrated solution that includes ground mobility for light infantry forces, light reconnaissance vehicular capabilities for the scouts and cavalry squadrons and it includes mobile protective firepower to assist those formations as well.”
http://www.defencetalk.com/us-army-seek ... emy-66838/Regarding adversaries, Quintas noted: “They’ve studied us and they know there will be a certain amount of time it will take us to project power forward.” As a result, UQ focused on determining what “capabilities and authorities” forward assets may need to make a more rapid transition from buildup to operations.
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Ma ei arva (a'la kalkun ka arvas) et see oleks hea võrdlus. Loodetavasti ei lase meie tulevased õhujõud Vaindloo juures mere kohal õhupiiril nurka lõiganud vene lennukit alla kuskil Tallinna - Helsingi vahel.Niipalju siis NATOst. Oligi liiga ilus. http://bianet.org/english/politics/1722 ... ly-on-nato
Venemaa rikub Türgi piiri (korduvalt), Türgi laseb Vene lennuki alla. NATO ütleb, et ise alustasite ja artikkel 5. ei kehti.
Narva ilmuvad rohemehikesed, kohalik kaitseliitlane laseb esimese rohemehikese maha. Nato ütleb, et artikkel 5. ei kehti, kuna ise alustasite.
* Hea foorumikaaslase viidatud väljaütlemine käis Türgi võimaliku agressiooni kohta lõunapoolses naaberriigis.
Tegelikult on selle kohta ka olemas pretsedent: 'Johnson letter' aastast 1964. http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... etter.html
* Beduiinile räägiti, et on koht, kus on niisama palju vett nagu on kõrbes liiva. Ta pidas kõnelejat valetajaks ... ta polnud kunagi merd näinud.
* Olla valmis vägivallaks. Võimetust ei tohi maskeerida vägivallatuse rüüsse. Mahatma Gandhi
* Olla valmis vägivallaks. Võimetust ei tohi maskeerida vägivallatuse rüüsse. Mahatma Gandhi
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Kolonel Herem esines eile "Kahekõnes" ja USA nr 1 sõjaväelane Euroopas kindral Breedlove USA esindajatekoja kaitsekomitees. Rääkis muu hulgas ka Randi raportist, Kaliningradist jne.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3m_N8yh4k
Breedlove ettekanne http://docs.house.gov/meetings/AS/AS00/ ... 160225.pdf
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3m_N8yh4k
Breedlove ettekanne http://docs.house.gov/meetings/AS/AS00/ ... 160225.pdf
Viimati muutis kaur3, 26 Veebr, 2016 11:03, muudetud 1 kord kokku.
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Pole vaja selliseid võrdlusi teha.Chupacabra kirjutas:Niipalju siis NATOst. Oligi liiga ilus.
http://bianet.org/english/politics/1722 ... ly-on-nato
Venemaa rikub Türgi piiri (korduvalt), Türgi laseb Vene lennuki alla. NATO ütleb, et ise alustasite ja artikkel 5. ei kehti.
Narva ilmuvad rohemehikesed, kohalik kaitseliitlane laseb esimese rohemehikese maha. Nato ütleb, et artikkel 5. ei kehti, kuna ise alustasite.
Õige võrdlus Türgi juhtumiga oleks selline, et kohalikud kaitseliitlased organiseerivad Eesti riikliku toetusega Pihkva oblastis partisanisõda vene keskvõimu vastu ja venelased vastavad sõjaga Eesti vastu.
Sellisel juhul võidakse ka meid kukelaulule saata.
Antud rohemehikeste ilmumine Narva - vähetõenäoline, et meid kuskile saadetakse.
Lisaks tuleb vaadata ka konteksti, Türgi on NATO-s USA järel järgmine konventsionaalne sõjajõud, kellele ei tohiks mingeid probleeme tekitada tänase piiriülese sebimisega toime tulek. Kui meie oleks sama kõvad kui Türgi, vaevalt need USA kompaniid ka siin oleks. NATOl pole vaja mingeid punaseid jooni tõmmata, meie kaitsevõime tõmbaks need ise.
/Veelgi hullem on see, et koos kohustusliku patriootliku riigioptimismi kehtestamisega nõrgeneks paratamatult ka meie ohutaju, mis on enesealalhoiuks vältimatult vajalik instinkt/ S. Mikser 2014.
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Infanterie - königin aller Waffen.
Ja kolmas brigaad tuleb ka nagunii.
Ja kolmas brigaad tuleb ka nagunii.
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F-22 alaliselt Poola baasi?
http://theaviationist.com/2016/03/02/us ... in-poland/According to the Polish “Rzeczpospolita” Daily, that quotes the U.S. General David W. Allvin, Director, Strategy, and Policy, Headquarters U.S. European Command, the Americans may permanently deploy F-22 Raptor jets to Poland.
Rzeczpospolita claims that Allvin came up with an idea of reinforcing the Polish airbases with a U.S. presence instead of establishing a permanent US military infrastructure within the territory of Poland, which may violate the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE).
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USA plaanib tuua tagasi Euroopasse mitu brigaadi
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/mili ... /81323722/The Pentagon is discussing plans to permanently move one or more Army brigade combat teams back to Europe, where the top American commander has signaled an urgent need to shore up allied defenses against the Russians, Military Times has learned.
If approved, the move could involve thousands of troops — an average BCT is composed of between 3,000 and 5,000 personnel — and mark the first time in decades that U.S. European Command has increased its footprint on the continent.
The EUCOM Commander, Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, discussed his proposals with top-level Pentagon officials while in Washington last week, according to a defense official familiar with the plans. Any increase would come in addition to the brigade-size force that would rotate through Eastern Europe as part of the $3.4 billion “European Reassurance Initiative,” which was included in the Pentagon’s latest budget request.
“They are looking at ways to increase the permanent Army forces in Europe,” the official said. “They're trying to figure out ‘how much do we need, and where would it come from?’”
Breedlove is concerned about the size of the current ground force in Europe, which includes two Army combat brigades. That's down from four brigades a few years ago.
“We do not have, in my opinion, enough U.S. forces permanently stationed forward … so I believe that the permanent forces forward need to be reviewed,” Breedlove, who also serves as NATO's supreme commander, told reporters March 1.
These high-level discussions at the Pentagon come amid growing worry that U.S. and NATO forces would be quickly overwhelmed in a fight against the far larger Russian force aligned along NATO’s eastern border. A recent series of classified exercises, featuring scenarios forecasting Russian military advances into Europe, is summarized in a report released in February from the RAND Corp.
“The outcome was, bluntly, a disaster for NATO,” the study concluded. “By and large, NATO’s infantry found themselves unable even to retreat successfully and were destroyed in place,” the report said, noting that the current posture of U.S. and NATO forces is “potentially inviting a devastating war, rather than deterring it.”
The RAND researchers concluded that the ideal force in Europe — from both U.S. and NATO countries — would include seven brigades, including three with heavy armor. The Russian military currently maintains a force of about 22 maneuver warfare battalions in its “Western Military District” along NATO’s border, according to the RAND study.
For now, EUCOM's contingency plan for a conflict with Russia relies the two garrisoned light infantry brigades — the 173rd Airborne out of Vicenza, Italy, and the 2nd Cavalry Regiment in Vilseck, Germany — plus a growing store of forward-deployed, prepositioned weapons and vehicles throughout Eastern Europe that would allow personnel to rapidly "fall in" and quickly join the fight.
Beyond that, the U.S. and Europe would rely on "rapid reinforcement" with Army units based in the United States. The Pentagon’s current budget proposal for next year includes money for “investments in ports, rail heads and railroads, and airfields so that we can rapidly receive, and then deploy and employ forces,” Breedlove said.
Yet experts say moving heavy armored brigades from the United States to NATO’s eastern border would take weeks or even months.
Troops unload Bradlee Fighting Vehicles at a rail yard near the Tapa Training Area in Estonia. (Photo: Chief Warrant Officer 2 Lew Robinson/Army)
Military officials caution that any decision on moving troops faces hurdles. Inside the Pentagon, the issue would trigger a budget battle over who — or what account — will pay for the increase. And in Europe, it would require approval from allies and an agreement with a host nation.
One major question for the U.S. is where those additional Army forces might be located, either in traditional Army garrison facilities in Germany or possibly closer to Russia, to the east in Poland or the Baltic countries.
“There are advantages and disadvantages to both, said David Ochmanek, a former Pentagon official who is now a senior defense analyst at RAND. “A force that is very forward could conceivably be vulnerable to a preemptive attack by short-range missiles or special forces. A force in Germany would be safer from such an attack but would have to move quickly to the border in the event of a conflict."
Ochmanek said he believes the best option involves putting significant combat forces in Eastern Europe where they can respond more quickly.
"There really is no substitute for having heavy combat forces, armored brigades and mechanized infantry, forward in the battle space," he said.
Today, the American force in Europe numbers about 65,000, down significantly from its Cold War-era peak of more than 200,000 in the 1980s.
The U.S. Army had four brigades in Europe until 2012, when it decided to deactivate two of them, leaving Europe with no U.S. Army tanks. Recently, the Army has returned more than 200 vehicles, but those are prepositioned in warehouse and not attached to permanent combat units.
In January, the National Commission on the Future of the Army released its final report recommending the return of at least one armored brigade to Europe.
Responding to renewed Russia aggression has been a topic of intense debate in Washington for the past two years since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine and seized the Crimea peninsula. In 2014, then-Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reportedly urged the White House to take a more aggressive response to Russia and to do more to reassure NATO allies along Russia’s border.
In the summer of 2015, the Pentagon dusted off its outdated war plans for Russia and assigned several top officials to revise them for the current threat.
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
EA, EU, EH
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
EA, EU, EH
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Rootsi saab lähima 2 aasta jooksul endale USA Patriot raketikompleksid.


http://censor.net.ua/news/377973/razmes ... ral_hodjesВ ближайшие два года в Швеции будут размещены американские зенитно-ракетные комплексы Patriot.
Как передает Цензор.НЕТ со ссылкой на "Гордон", об этом командующий вооруженными силами США в Европе Бен Ходжес заявил в интервью шведскому телеканалу TV4.
По его словам, речь идет о крупномасштабных учениях по мгновенному перемещению с американских баз в Европе в Швецию и обратно современных американских систем воздушной обороны.
По словам Ходжеса, таким образом Швеция может получить недостающее сейчас вооружение для защиты своего воздушного пространства. Это также станет ясным предупреждением России, что США и НАТО намерены оберегать воздушные границы стран региона Балтийского моря.
Он не стал уточнять, как долго в течение этих двух лет зенитно-ракетные комплексы будут оставаться на территории Швеции.
Отметим, Швеция не является членом НАТО. Принцип неприсоединения к военным альянсам закреплен на законодательном уровне.
Ainus, mida me ajaloost õpime, on see, et keegi ei õpi ajaloost midagi.
Live for nothing or die for something.
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EA, EU, EH
Live for nothing or die for something.
Kui esimene kuul kõrvust mõõda lendab, tuleb vastu lasta.
EA, EU, EH
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Huvitav, kas poleks lihtsam sel juhul majandada hoopistükkis AEGIS süsteeme kandvate laevadega? Selmet Patriote ringi väntsutada.По его словам, речь идет о крупномасштабных учениях по мгновенному перемещению с американских баз в Европе в Швецию и обратно современных американских систем воздушной обороны.
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