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NAFO ep kirjutas: ↑14 Jaan, 2025 19:36 SEPKA
Tiblanatsid vist suures hoos meie ja meie liitlaste kaableid retsides ka mingi oma sidekaabli on läbi lõiganud, mingid rakendused ei töötavat seetõttu.

https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/187 ... 40438?s=46

smr kirjutas: ↑14 Jaan, 2025 22:05

NAFO ep kirjutas: ↑14 Jaan, 2025 19:36 SEPKA
Tiblanatsid vist suures hoos meie ja meie liitlaste kaableid retsides ka mingi oma sidekaabli on läbi lõiganud, mingid rakendused ei töötavat seetõttu.

https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/187 ... 40438?s=46

Ehk siis sa ütled, et kõigi nende teenuste serverid asuvad Kalinigradis?

A tanker, which is suspected of being part of the shadow fleet, on its way from Russia to the North Sea had an unusual engine failure three times. The tanker is now at anchor off Skagen.

The ship 'Jazz' experienced engine problems near Finland, Sweden and between Denmark and Germany.

A mapping made by Danwatch and Dagbladet Information shows that the ship was immediately above submarine cables in the Baltic Sea at all engine stops.

On 29 December at 17:45, the ship reported engine problems and slowed to 1.6 knots, after which it slowly drifted across nine submarine cables off the Finnish port city of Hanko.

One of the cables is the C-Lion 1 communication cable, which runs between Germany and Finland, and which was previously destroyed by an anchor from the Chinese merchant ship Yi Peng 3.

The ship drifted for two days before sailing on to Russia on 31 December. A little over a week later, Jazz filled the cargo with up to 50,000 tonnes of oil and then set course for the Baltic Sea and the Great Belt.

Here the ship ran into engine problems again twice. Only January 9 at 04:23, once again close to the submarine cable C-Lion 1 off the Swedish Gotland.

It happened again on 11 January at 03:58, when the ship stopped over a broken submarine cable between Lolland and Bornholm and drifted near the Baltic Pipe gas pipeline and the C-Lion 1 cable.

Defense analyst Peter Viggo Jakobsen from the Defense Academy calls it "very unusual".

“It looks like they play engine stoppage every time they need an excuse to sail slowly. When it happens over cables all three times, you can put two and two together and say that it is probably about something other than a machine stoppage", he says.

Could be surveillance

Danwatch and Information have contacted the owner of the C-Lion 1 cable, Cinia, who states that they have not experienced any problems with the cable during the period when the tanker Jazz has stopped.

However, this does not rule out the possibility of surveillance of the cables, believes Peter Viggo Jakobsen.

"It's strange that you end up getting off course in a way that gives you a better opportunity to look at a cable that lies on the seabed. It looks as if you are trying to lie down optimally to look at the cables or do something about them", he says.

Naval captain and military analyst Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen does not believe that it can be a coincidence when the ship stops three times near underwater infrastructure.

“I don't find that particularly likely. I'm sure it's beyond what we call coincidence. This is also confirmed by the fact that they slow down, they reduce the speed to these one to two knots, and that is just the limit for when you can drop anchor", he says.

He believes that "you have to see this as an attempt at something that has not succeeded" or a kind of attempt to test the preparedness of the NATO countries in the event of sabotage.

Although it is still unknown what Jazz has done - and whether it has done anything - Peter Viggo Jakobsen believes that the time has come to stop "giving the Russians the benefit of the doubt".

"The general threat picture right now is that if we have some important cables under the water's surface, then we have to take precautions. We have to keep an eye on these ships", he says.

Should "go all the way to the edge" against the shadow fleet

The Defense Intelligence Service described fears of hybrid warfare by the shadow fleet in its latest threat assessment, but declined to comment for this article.

On the other hand, there was a NATO summit in Finland on Tuesday, where Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen subsequently said that she "is worried about the shadow fleet" and promised new measures in the Baltic Sea.

Senior researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies, Flemming Splidsboel, says above the summit that the time has come to react to the threat from ships like the Jazz.

"It's about using the tools that are available in the fight against the shadow fleet. See what is there and go right to the edge of what is possible", he says.

According to Splidsboel, there is broad agreement that it is no longer enough to say, "we cannot prove that it is Russia".

"We have reached a point where it is said that this will have consequences for the Russians", he says.

At the time of writing, the ship Jazz is still at anchor outside Skagen, but here the Danish Maritime Authority generally does not carry out port state checks, as Danwatch and Information described on Monday. The Danish Maritime Authority has not yet responded to whether they have carried out an inspection of Jazz.

According to experts, the board otherwise has full authority to carry out inspections at Skagen.

It has not been possible to get a comment from the Defense Intelligence Service, the Ministry of Defence, the Naval Command, the Danish Maritime Authority or the State Ministry.

Danwatch and Information have also tried to contact Jazz's alleged owners, ' T Rex Maritime Trading' , but this has not been possible.

vanahalb kirjutas: ↑27 Dets, 2024 18:21

Lemet kirjutas: ↑27 Dets, 2024 16:05

Kusjuures ise laeva peal olles pole esmapilgul näha et kas ankur ikka on üleval

Sohoh...lugupeetav ise ikka elus kordki vööridekil ankrupeli juures on viibinud? Kui nina sutsu üle reelinguserva pista, on ka esmapilgul suurepäraselt aru saada, kas ankur on üleval või alla antud.

Eks see oleneb reelinguservast. Pärast seda kui Soome-Eesti gaasitoru katki tõmmati olen juba huvi pärast vaadanud et kas tekil olles on ülestõmmatud ankrut näha.
Tavaliselt kord kuus tuleb laeva peal käia. Viimane oli Weco Laura, sõidab praegult Türgi poole.

Suurel laeval peab spetsiaalselt võimlema et sinna näha. Lihtsalt külje pealt üle reelingu kiigates tavaliselt ei näe. Samuti pole ma niiväga kindel et vahimadrus käib merel regulaarselt vaatamas et ega ankur juhtumisi alla pole kukkunud.

Allakukkumised võivad ka väsinud tehnikast tekkida. Ankruga pole endal juhust olnud, ma ise mere ei sõida. Aga laeva kraanade vintside pidurid on küll järgi andnud ja last kai peale prantsatamud. Ikka rohkem kui üks kord.

affa kirjutas: ↑16 Jaan, 2025 21:57 Kuidas vanahalb utiliseerimisega on - kas Soomes on võimekust nii suur alus seibideks lõigata? Bensiini all olnud mahutid tõstavad keerukusastet veelgi?
Reederi esindaja ju juba hirmutab laeva hülgamisega.

vanahalb kirjutas: ↑16 Jaan, 2025 22:51 s, müüakse last maha ja tühi kere aetakse hindude kätte.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC-fITnLZ7A

Mis tähendab seda et ülestõmmatud ankrut enamasti ei näe. Või seda et kas teda üldse enam laeva küljes on

Ankrut saabki lasta alla kas nn vabalangemisega, elektrimootoriga või kombineeritult.

Lemet kirjutas: ↑17 Jaan, 2025 8:28 ...

Ja millised toimingud eelnevad sellele, et ankur vabalangemisega saaks alla kukkuda? Võiks võtta mõne ankruvintsi pildigi ette ja vaadata täpsemalt järele,